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Teddy could be included in the deal just for cap reasons, if the Texans would be fine taking 1 year of his contract to bridge a rookie they draft. But it definitely wouldn't add value to the trade for the Texans, and if anything we'd just have to add an extra mid/late round pick to get them to take the contract. If he wasn't traded to the Texans we'd have to find somewhere else to trade him. Couldn't fit both Watson and Teddy here.

I thought that at first but no chance Houston is trading Watson within in the division, even to get Lawrence...

Matt Moore I believe is on their practice squad. No idea how Henne beat him out for the backup job... Moore was great in those starts last year, getting a big win against MN that got them home field advantage and contributed to them ultimately winning the SB.

Yeah hard to read too much into this with the Aints having that good of odds. There is nothing they can realistically do to get Watson, short of trading Kamara and Thomas and getting rid of a bunch of other players too, while eating all that dead money for years to come and fielding a roster even worse than the Texans' was this year around Watson.

I don't know their exact testing processes, but could it be a bunch of false positives that just can't get confirmed to be false/negative before the game tonight? That's my hope anyways...

Really curious now what the deal with Staal was. At first we all thought he was put on the COVID list because he was travelling back to Raleigh due to an injury. Otherwise, why was he the only one at first and why did we play two games and travel? Hopefully all our guys will be fine and this won't be as long of a delay as the Dallas Stars' one. Bummer... And with the Hornets off tomorrow because of the Wizards COVID situation, now I have nothing to watch this week...

Teddy ain't it for sure. But Watson should just be another potential option along with Fields, Lance and Wilson. One of those 4 and I'm happy. A rookie could be a better option depending on how much it would take to get Watson, but both options need to be considered. If we don't get one of those 4 I'd be upset with this offseason, even with Hurney fired.

Reliable local KC source: "Brachial stun" is essentially what it looked like and what the symptoms were consistent with, at least according to several medical opinions I've seen when reading about Mahomes stuff in the last day. All of this from legit KC reporters; I doubt he suffered a concussion. Got put in the protocol because of his reaction after the hit consistent with the official NFL Concussion protocol guidelines https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/health-and-wellness/player-care/concussion-protocol-return-to-participation-protocol Now that he's in the protocol, there is no way he can play unless he passes all of their specific steps, so it's definitely no guarantee that Mahomes plays. But if he didn't actually suffer a concussion, which seems likely, then there really shouldn't be any concerns about him passing the protocols. He's already passed all the initial tests and will likely move through it and be cleared by Friday/Saturday.

It actually didn't look like a concussion at all. The team hasn't even confirmed that he was concussed, just that he's in the protocol and passed all the initial tests immediately. Recent reports are that it was a nerve issue in his neck (which is what the hit looked like) that caused him to be all groggy getting up, and got him put in the protocol. If those reports are true, I'd say it's much more likely than not that he gets cleared, though it's not a guarantee.

Really good so far, and he's the main reason I'm excited about the Hornets' future. Ball was an obvious pick, but Kup has done pretty well with our other later 1st rounders, and the contributions we've been getting from 2nd rounders have been great. Hayward was a good signing, as was Rozier. No issues with Mitch so far.

Cam should go to Buffalo for a reasonable backup contract to sit there behind Allen. The way Allen plays, he'd be the perfect backup and could still see reasonable playing time...

That wouldn't be a huge deal if he could find those filler guys in free agency at a bargain like Belichick has his entire career, and many other teams have too. Even DG was pretty good at that, despite his drafting issues (until the Kalil deal, which I still suspect was JR's doing).

If Watson actually wants to go to NYJ then they deserve each other. Have fun with that.

He had some other hits. Not a ton and overall his drafting was definitely below average, even with the 1st round hits. But drafting wasn't his main weakness, it was choosing who to pay and when to pay and how much to pay. He was an absolute pushover in that aspect and that's what set us back much further than his drafting.

I like Wilson but I may think about trading up to 3 to nab Fields over the Falcons in this scenario.

What does that have to do with Mitch sucking?

McLovin has been absolute trash this year. He should be riding the pine the next couple games.

That’s why Svech and Aho need to play together... Not sure what’s up with TT, benched or injury?

That looks right, I haven’t checked the actual numbers, but I do recall him talking about valuing them and them being a part of the equation, which when compared with Hurney, these numbers seem to support. I also recall at least a few times where DG a specifically targeted players that were released or that wouldn’t count towards the formula to preserve the ones we did get. DG had his faults, including as the other poster said trading away draft picks, but I don’t think that he didn’t value comp picks at least to some degree. Would be interesting to look at the average number of comp picks for each team from 2014 to 2018 to compare. I think DG would be around average, with teams like NE, BAL, PIT, GB, etc. crushing it at the top. Hopefully we can become a team in that group with Fitt and Rhule.

We did under DG

In theory Devonte would be a great 6th man, but not if he keeps shooting the way he has been this season... LaMelo frankly should’ve been starting from day 1.

My God those lines are complete insanity. Crippling Svech with Marty playing out of position and slotted too high, and Fast who hasn’t shown anything offensively so far... Svech need to be up with the Finns. Hoping for the best but if we stick with these combos throughout the game I’m expecting us to look as bad or worse as we did the first 2 games, against a much better opponent.

There will not be bad offers this year. They’ll get an absolute haul for him.

Waiting to trade him does nothing but hurt the Texans. Sure they can try to play hardball with Watson and call his bluff or try to mend fences, but there’s no real incentive to doing that if Watson won’t play ball and just wants out 100%. They just hurt themselves to spite Watson which makes no sense for them. It has nothing to do with the Texans’ reputation, it has to do with what they would get in return for a trade. In the NFL assets that are further out in the future hold less value, so if they delay past this current draft there is a value decline there. Then also, to your point, Watson’s reputation and value takes a hit the longer he goes without playing. Yes teams will still definitely want him even if he sits out a full year, but it will absolutely harm his market value. Watson coming off an MVP caliber year in 2020 is worth much more than Watson who hasn’t played in nearly 2 years (which is what it would be if he sits out all of 2021). And in addition, this draft is going to produce 3-4 highly drafted QBs that will take 3-4 teams out of the market for Watson (and also prevent Houston from replacing Watson with 1 of them in this stacked class). All of this would lead to them getting less for Watson if they wait. I agree that it’s possible he may not be traded until draft day, but if he is 100% adamant on wanting out, then he’ll be traded by the end of day 1 of the draft. Not any time after that.

Like I said, it's all dependent on if Watson will sit out. If he will then he just sits out and the Texans are absolutely fuged and will be utter garbage while not getting anything in return for Watson if they don't trade him. The longer he sits out the less they get in return in a potential trade. Also important to note that every single team in the league who has any tiny question about their QB situation will be in on this. Many will be priced out of the market fairly quickly but every single team that doesn't already have their guaranteed franchise QB will be inquiring at least. It's in the Texans' best interest to have this solved before the draft, as if they do trade him they'd have a great opportunity to replace him in this draft.