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Wait is it happening now or something? Truly had zero clue and saw no news about it at all despite checking espn and other stuff a fair amount with the nba trade deadline stuff

16 hours ago, 33inNC said:

Holy hell, finally picked the right guy in the lottery, but still picking the wrong guys in general.  Glad to see this team has better leadership, as we always seemed to pick the wrong guy with MJ at the helm (see his meddling and bad pick correlations).

Ehh, new front office has 2 drafts under their belt -- Salaun draft class was really a horrible class in general, but Salaun has started to show some of his potential and KJ Simpson not bad for a 2nd round pick. This past draft clearly looks like it was knocked out of the fuging park obviously with Kon but also Sion and Kalk already contributing in somewhat big roles for late round picks. And McNeeley has shown potential and lit it up in summer league, seems to be doing well in the G league for a young guy too. 

As for this season I think a very realistic goal and outcome of the regular season is sneaking up into a 7 or 8 seed and then winning 1 of 2 play-in games to make the real playoffs. Probably get cooked in round 1 but that playoff experience and establishing that expectation of winning is critical to the development of our young core. 

16 hours ago, WUnderhill said:

 

Ehh Miller alone makes that a great draft class. Glad we didn’t make the mistake of taking Scoot, as many wanted. MJ’s final parting gift to us 

Huge win, I’m completely sold on this team and this core. Kon and Diabate were the last missing pieces along with Miller/Ball health. The defense has improved significantly and the offense is playing amazing team basketball. Had some passing plays that looked like prime Warriors dynasty or Pop Spurs out there which is just so damn fun to watch. Unselfish team basketball. This Hornets season feels a lot like the Hurricanes’ 2018-19 season when they broke a decade long playoff drought. Started the season horribly but went on a run the rest of the season like this January for the Hornets. Haven’t missed the playoffs since then and have won at least a round every year. Hopefully Hornets can follow that same trajectory man.

fuging love this team man, wow what a month of basketball. 

Tet and Coker in KC would go for 1500 and 1200 yards respectively, easily

Yeah, I’m a Darnold fan. Can’t say the same about the other QB from that draft we acquired around the same time

Stidham terrible decision, needs to just not fug up and they’ll win but that was a disastrous momentum changing giveaway 

I would’ve taken the points there

Broncos absolutely dominating in field position so far.

That was a hell of a sack. Man I wish we had a real pass rush

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Interesting that they just brought up the point of having a real backup QB because your season can be over from one bad break if you don't. Hope Dan is listening. 

I mean, Stidham on paper really isn’t a “real backup QB.” Obviously Payton saw something he liked enough to rely on him as a backup but it’s not like Stidham is a former starter who had some success and is known as a top backup (like Foles was when he won with the Eagles).

12 minutes ago, frankw said:

I despise him but Sean Payton is certainly a good offensive mind and he can get results out of some seriously mediocre QB's.

Yeah I don’t even think Nix is that good. He’s closer to Bryce than he is to a legit franchise QB IMO. But Payton is a wayyy better offensive mind than Canales.

Can’t stand either team but pulling for Denver today. Think we get a rematch of SB XLVIII with Seahawks blowing out the broncos badly again. Pulling for Rams and Stafford to win it all though, Seattle just seems too good and they’re at home. Either way I think NFC takes it this year.

2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Got to give some credit to the coaching staff on these. You can grab top talents but without good coaching, they just fizzle out. We've seen that a lot around here.

 

Yeah nobody ever really knows how much of a player ultimately being a success is scouting vs development/coaching. It's always a mix and you need both, and both need to be aligned as players you scout could fit in one coach's system but not fit in others. That's why you need coaching staff and front office to be in lock step. 

40 minutes ago, h0llywood said:

Pretty spot on. The only thing that I may add is that I think Scourton is our future. I think next season with Wonnum gone he makes the leap and gets 9-10 sacks.

Yeah I'm super excited about Scourton. I'm just holding back my excitement a bit as I was also incredibly excited about Kony Ealy and that came back to bite me. Hence why I'm "nearly sold" but not "completely sold."

Early returns are great and exciting but also worth noting that Gettleman had a few drafts that looked incredible early on and wound up mostly sucking (2014 mainly). Also PFF; grain of salt, etc. 

I'm completely sold on Tet being a stud, knocked a high pick out of the park like we needed to and always should.

Nearly sold on Scourton.

Not sold on Princely but he had flashes.

Not sold on Etienne as more than a 3rd stringer and special teamer, but that's not terrible for his draft position.

Big fan of Ransom and think he'll be a starter. 

Cam Jackson : IDK, I see limited upside but we didn't see much of him

Evans was a nice find for draft position and he had a great rookie year for a late round rookie TE with plenty of veteran competition. Not sure about his upside though, seems like best case is a long term #2/3 TE, which isn't bad.

Jimmy Horn, personally I didn't see a damn thing from him that impressed me all year. And he got a lot of opportunities. Pulling for the kid, but not convinced he's an NFLer.

UDFA: Fitzgerald was an amazing find

6 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Buffalo has a much worse roster than Carolina's (besides the QB, obviously). Swap BY and JA and the Panthers go 14-3 and the Bills go 4-13.

Two disgruntled AFC QB's in Burrow and Allen, but there is no way those teams let those players go. You never know, though. I'd easily give 3 first round picks for either

I think Josh Allen will eventually force his way out of Buffalo, and people will look back at this offseason as the reason why. Will take 2-3 years and I bet he goes west coast (maybe LA to replace Stafford...??) but I don't think he's gonna stay in Buffalo that much longer. Especially if they (predictably) struggle the next year or two.

1 minute ago, TD alt said:

 

I think you guys are vastly underestimating the power that McDermott had.

Terry Pegula, during his presser, said outright that Keon Coleman was NOT BEANE'S next choice. Beane gave into the coaching staff because it was a collaboration. That's what Pegula said. 

Now we'll likely never know which picks were Beane's and which picks were McDermott's, but suffice it to say that there is a reason McDermott was fired. Pegula basically said that he thought they had hit a wall with all the almost-wins-turned-losses, and he thought that they needed a change.

Pegula also addressed the narrative about Beane making some type of power play. He flat out said that had Beane done that, he would've been fired on the spot.

For anyone that's interested, it was a compelling interview to watch or listen to. 

 

dawg, not sure if you follow hockey at all but Terry Pegula is by far the worst owner in the NHL and has run the Buffalo Sabres into the ground -- 14 straight years missing the playoffs. Buffalo media has reported extensively about how Pegula has run each team (mostly hands off with the Bills since McD and Josh arrived) and their observations are that the way Pegula has handled the McDermott and Beane situation has been an absolute disaster and very reminiscent of the Sabres disfunction. 

We don't really know the full story and never will but I do know that Pegula's comments in that press conference were completely asinine and came across to me as a terrible owner trying to come across like he knows what he's doing. Why in the world would you make those comments about an active player on the team, or air all this alleged behind the scenes dirty laundry in a press conference? Came across to me as a terrible owner being defensive about his stupid decisions.

There very much was a reason McDermott was fired and Beane was kept. Now, whether that reason had any basis in objective logic and reason is anyone's guess. Based on Pegula's history, I suspect his reasoning behind the decision was very flawed. This is very reminiscent of some of Tepper's clown decisions and comments from the worst moments of his time as our owner so far. 

Stupid. I haven't found any more enjoyment from the 17th game, 18th is even more unnecessary. 

We kicked it short of the landing zone I’m pretty sure. New kickoff rule

The AFC was such a massive joke this year. Seahawks or Rams will win the SB easily IMO

13 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Don't underestimate how a bad hire can flip that on it's head.

IMO, this was a mutual parting of ways because he likely would have been canned otherwise.

Also, I am willing to bet his media job lasts until a good HC opportunity presents itself.

My point is they are not going to make a bad hire, in all likelihood. Evero may or may not be a serious candidate for them. Like it or not, many teams interview certain coaches to check the rooney rule box. But if he is a serious candidate and they do hire him it means there's something there we probably don't see. I HATE Evero's scheme and playcalling decisions, but that doesn't mean he couldn't be a good/great HC. They are ultimately 2 different jobs, especially if as HC he let his DC call the plays.

Maybe you're right about Tomlin but I don't get that vibe personally. I doubt they'd have fired him this year, maybe he saw writing on the wall for the following year but based on comments from Steelers ownership I think they were happy with him having them competitive every year, even with the playoff losing. I mean all Tomlin really needed to break through in the playoffs IMO was a QB. Harbaugh got fired (mutual*) because they couldn't break through again despite having a probably future HoF QB and multiple time MVP. 

I think Tomlin wanted a break and a change himself. I think he'll go back to coaching in a year or 2, but isn't waiting for the right opportunity just actually wants a break and a less stressful media job for now to kinda reset. Also wonder if he was getting frustrated at how the Steelers' FO kept approaching the QB position recently.

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I would love to see him go destroy the Steelers and make them look foolish for firing Mike Tomlin.

Steelers are a stable organization and I don't think any coach they choose to hire will "destroy them." Also Tomlin stepped down for a media job, didn't get fired.