AU-panther

Good thing we have Fitt and the coaches to make the decisions…

Everyone is so focused on Nicole watching the O-line, which really doesn’t matter and ignoring the real problem. We just had a starter get cut, usually backups get cut. if the starter gets cut shouldn’t the backups already have been cut? Shouldn’t they in theory be worse, hence the reason they were not starting? Do you really think the owners wife assembled the o-line? Heck, do you really think the owner did? He might sit in on the process but that is on the coaches and front office.

So Tepper should have kept bad coaches for longer?

Which was?

Biggest takeaway: Reich admitted that he was wrong about the QB he wanted.

but weren't you or somebody at one time linking articles talking about how Fitt and Frank agreed not to talk about their preferences at QB during the draft process until the end and it when they did, they both liked Young from the start. I seem to get chastised for not believing everything I read..... I guess it depends on the agenda.

Our front office would probably justify it now since it was “this years” first, even though this years first was last years next years first

He has a better chance of going too-15 then 2nd round.

Do you honestly think Keon will be there in the 2nd?

Wasn’t their a report that Fitt and Frank agreed not to talk about who they preferred during the process but when they finally did it was Bryce all along?

I'm not talking about which of us (the fans) wanted Young, but which of the front office? Seems like now people are trying to run with narrative that Tepper was the reason, but after the draft all we heard about was it was some magical moment where Fitt and Frank waited to the last minute to tell each other who they liked it and was Young and they both thought that way from the start. I will say that i do believe any time you have the #1 pick, and especially if you are using it on a QB, that the owner has to sign off and has final say. That really isn't unusual, but I don't buy this idea that he is doing the scouting and totally overriding an entire staff if there is a huge difference of opinion. If the HC and GM and scouting department all say Stroud is a lot better prospect, I don't see an owner overriding that, too easy for him to look bad. Now if the front office views them pretty similar then yes maybe an owner makes that call. What if Fitt liked Young more and Frank liked Stroud more? Maybe at that point an owner makes the call. I don't know if any of us know for sure at this point. I do think though if we continue to lose more games you might see more finger pointing.

I'm not saying Tepper hasn't made mistakes, but this idea of meddling is getting a bit overblown, or at the very least meddling has a vary broad meaning based on who you talk to. Calling a coach into your office to ask why he is 0-5, and expecting better, isn't meddling, its caring and holding an employee accountable. Playing GM and making every pick on draft day is meddling. Deciding every free agent pick up is meddling. Calling plays from the owners suite is meddling.

This is exactly the type of staff that a “football person” would have hired. Hindsight is always 20/20.

I agree that can be a red flag, and hurt tremendously at the next level, but the question becomes is he holding on to the ball that long, because he can't process quickly, or because he has the ability to extend plays and he relies on that too much. Either way, both of these guys would have been top picks the past two years. Honestly those two and Trevor might be the top 3 QB prospects in the last 10 years, maybe Burrow also. Just another reason why trading away a 2024 1st round pick was a huge gamble. This year's #1 and #2 picks is going to be worth a lot more than these past years.

at least we don't have a college coach back there...

Quick is what got us here to start with.

He probably leads the league in throwing the ball out of bounds. He probably also is towards the bottom on the league in big time throws. If I remember correctly Bridgewater had a year or multiple years where he was the best at not having turnover worthy plays and the worst at big times throws. The question with Bryce is why? Isit because he doesn’t have the physical abilities? It is his personality? Is it play calling? Is it his teammates? My guess it is some combination of all above.

exactly how much are his NIL deals worth? how much is the #1 pick worth?

Certain people where to busy trying to blame everything on Rhule. Just because Rhule had “final say” doesn’t mean he was coming up with all the bad ideas.

But Richardson has actually shown the ability to do some stuff that most other QBs can’t do, albeit running. A few plays here and there where you might say he is different than most. Bryce hasn’t really shown anything yet, I’m not saying he won’t in the future, but so far the only thing that has stood out is his ability to throw it out of bounds.

Thank you for compiling that. I was too lazy to count but I was thinking I had seen very few impressive throws. The vast majority of his completions are of a very basic variety, could have kept Bridgewater or Darnold. Maybe the coaches have him playing scared, maybe it’s just a small sample size, or maybe he just doesn’t have the physical or mental makeup to do it.

or he is scared to throw to his first read. or his first read is covered. Loves job is easy based on the fact that he has a high number of drop backs that are unpressured, but he also throws it to his first read a lot. Maybe this graph is telling us the key to not being pressured is throwing to your first read which makes it more of a WR/QB stat than an OL stat.

and in the meantime, you waste a lot of cap that can actually be used once you do find the QB. The QB is the hard part of the equation, the rest of the roster you can fill out with a lot more certainty through free agency. You see this all the time; teams try to protect young QBs and try try win early by building good defenses and running the ball. If you don't have a QB that should be your main goal. Winning a few extra games is pointless, there are no trophies for going 7-10 instead of 5-12. Build a quality O-line and a good receiving core. That way you properly evaluate your QB, also he is in the best position to develop. Its better to go 5-12 losing games 24-31, then to win a few more games losing 14-21. Outside of that don't waste your cap space or future picks just making yourself a little less bad. Even if you draft a really good QB they usually struggle their first year. Once you are sure he is going to be good and has developed some then start spending those resources to improve the defense. I'm not normally a fan of spending resources on a RB, but I would have understood keeping him to help Bryce develop. A player like DJ would have been nice. Instead, we keep Burns, don't get me wrong, I think Burns can be a really good player, but i just don't know if we made the most logical choices this offseason for our long term wellbeing.

Probably so. The fact that the Bears were willing to trade out of #1 tells you everything you need to know.

But it does stop teams from getting who they want. Hence the the reason all rosters are primarily made up of cheap guys. Will the prevent us from signing Burns if we want? No, but it will prevent us from signing a lot of players to contracts like that. here again, it’s not as prohibitive as some make it out to be but to make statements that it doesn’t matter as all is just wrong.