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I'm talking like a 5th/6th round pick. Browns need to move him to facilitate the Watson deal. The 5th year is fully guaranteed, can't cut him just like us with Sam. Has to be dealt to open up cap space. If they don't want him in the AFC us or Seattle would represent the only destinations. With Baker I feel he would immediately be at worst like the 6th best QB in the NFC and we're a playoff team if the team stays healthy. We'd be able to sign him long term or tag him ala Kirk Cousins if we chose to. If we arent a playoff team then Rhule is gone, Darnold is gone, Baker is gone and we are out after round pick. It literally is a win win scenario. I'm not talking about serious day 1 or 2 assets or committing big money right now. If the team needs to win right now (and by all accounts they do) there isn't a QB out there thats going to provide as good a chance at that as Baker Mayfield.

The only QB I'm trading for is Mayfield. Outside of that I'm taking one at 6 or moving down 5-10 slots and getting whichever of Willis, Pickett, Howell is there.

After last season I will gladly take the upgrade to average. Hit on a QB be it a resurgence for a guy like Baker or through the draft with Willis, Pickett, Howell? Oh wee mayne

We do host the Browns this year

Even that may be too high. We're looking at one year rental before you have to tag and sign him long term coming off shoulder surgery. Next years 3 us the highest id go and that is probably good enough. Sam and Baker in camp on 1 year deals. If they fail, they're both gone with Rhule. With the moves made today and still keeping pick number 6 in the mix...I think we're a playoff team tbh.

Second? Nah a 5th now. Id say lower but i actually want him here and thats the offer to outbid the rest lol. Theyve lost any and all leverage. Fully guaranteed 18 mil just like Darnold.

Anything under 20 would have been a steal. Especially with the contract Kirk just got in Jacksonville. 4 years 73 is perfect considering just last year Golladay got 4 years 72 million while being 4 years older than Moore.

Sorry poorly worded on my part. Meant I was more comfortable with the restructure of Moton vs Robby.

I dont disagree at all. I even said in a later post that this move, particularly with Robby is a head scratcher. First move that feels like the ole Hunrey special. We saw it play out with Hurney restructuring players that 1) shouldn't have been paid what they were and 2) then constantly restructuring to the point where we are stuck and can't move on from them. Its certainly not the ideal scenario but I feel a lot more comfortable restructuring a guy like Moton vs CMC, Robby etc.

Our 4th went to the Jets in the Darnold trade which was 2022 2nd, 2022 4th, 2021 6th. Our pick this year was the Rams pick they traded to Houston who traded it to us during the draft last year. After comp picks its allllll the way down to 137.

Players would never stop it. Also protects their game checks from suspensions.

Worth noting the Panthers now have the 2nd most cap space in the NFL at 34 million trailing only Indy who's at 39 million. Id wager some more moves coming down the pipeline today.

I saw that. Hurt my soul. Pretty much guarantees Robby is here for the next 2 years and we're almost certainly not trading him unless someone parts with like a 2nd rounder. This move feels like a head scratcher to me. This is one I would have steered away from. Robbys contract actually doesn't look that bad after seeing some of the nonsense getting tossed around in FA right now and we had an easy out in case he further regressed this season. Odd move for sure.

Assuming the players restructured play out the length of their contracts and aren't cut/waived or traded we won't add any dead money. None of the restructures have added dummy or void years like the Saints do. This year we're paying Paradis and Reddick for void years but looking ahead quickly at 2023 I dont see any on Spotrac.

legit lold. That got me. The memes from the past few days have been a great distraction. I'm sure the pain will set in come August but for now I dont even care.

Current preference: Baker Cam + Willis @ 6 Trade back for Howell Tank with Darnold Jameis/Mariota Will Grier PJ Walker Matt Moore Jimmy G

I'm only disappointed we won't get to see Burns plant him twice a year until 2023 since he'll get suspended all next year. Oh and like Jeremy said. He clearly is now 100% guilty of any and all past present and future allegations. Now let's open that checkbook up to Armstead.

Darnold had 2 years of control left (one of them fairly cheap) and that relationship wasn't openly soured. Sure we all knew they were taking Wilson at 2 to replace him but it wasn't a public spat like whats unfolded in Cleveland. Baker has 1 year of control left playing on the 5th year option then will be up for a new contract. Hes coming off season ending surgery (to the non throwing shoulder, I'm not worried about it) and there is no way he plays again in Cleveland the way things have unfolded. I think we're looking at a future conditional 4th here. I'd do a 3rd if they'd take Sam in a swap. Maybe even a pick swap from 6 to 13 with Baker and Sam swapping teams too. I have to say the more I think about this the more I like this option. We've at least seen big time throws from Baker we haven't seen from someone like Jimmy G. He's got more of an attitude/swagger like a Cam and isn't afraid to be a vocal leader - Something we have sorely missed on this team.

Honestly hope that the offer never gets leaked and save some face with the team claiming jt was just draft capital offered so you don't have anyone get upset like Baker in Cleveland. Hand Armstead a blank check, resign Gilmore, trade a late round pick for Baker Mayfield and take BPA or trade down for your QB of the future while amassing some additional picks.

Baker Mayfield is a big reason the Browns aren't the Browns anymore. I imagine he ends up in Indy but itd be nice to have a legit starting NFL QB again.

Yes. I dont hold this past season against him. He really should have been IRd but gutted it out and played through it like Cam in 18. That sells with your team. He would immediately be the best QB we've fielded in 7 years. If DW does chose NO draft a LT at 6, sign Bakers old center and this is a playoff team. Leverage is gone for Cleveland and he's in the last year of his deal so we're looking at a fairly cheap option. I'm not parting with anything higher than a 4th next year or 5th this year. Ideally you swap Darnold/Baker plus a pick. My only hesitancy would be that he's due for a contract next season and whether he's going to want Josh Allen money or Kirk Cousins money remain to be seen. Could always go the franchise tag route for a couple seasons. Worst case, he flames out or gets injured and we're picking top 10 again and trade the same picks we would have to draft a rookie next year.

If we go that route... Next years 4. The 49ers fumbled that so bad. Market is all but gone for him if the Colts don't want him (which appears to be they don't based on what's come out today) Rather go Willis or LT and tank w/ Darnold for next years QB class

Don't quote me on this but I feel like I remember reading the bills offered their 3rd and Beasley during the combine. Thats when the reports we wanted a 1st + player came from. Also worth noting the media in NY are under the impression Saquon is only garnering interest for a conditional 5th that could turn into a 4th. Pretty far fall from grace.

Depends if he's actually meeting with the Falcons tomorrow or not. You've seen Verge say today was the day. You've seen its a 2 horse race. Now we've seen 2 more teams enter into thjs at the 11th hour. I do think it's a bit absurd to not have a ticking clock here on this one but could also see not wanting to push Watson or rush him if you just sat there with him and your pitch was more or less "we will worship the ground you walk on"

Theres zero chance it costs a 2nd AND a 4th to essentially dump Darnolds contract. Osweiler had 3 years and 54 million left on his contract at a time when the salary cap was 50 million lower than it is today... and he was traded for a 2nd and 6th with a 4th coming back to Houston. Darnold has one year left at the same AAV. A 6th is probably what it would cost on the expensive side to dump that contract. Hell, we dumped Teddy with 2 years and 40 million and actually got back a 6th. This notion that its going to cost a 2nd and 4th to dump one year of Darnold is absurd. If that was the case the Panthers would just keep him as a sunk cost. They're not going to keep sinking future assets into him when he will not be a Panther regardless in 12 months.