XClown1986

I agree. I think the Raiders want more draft capital and are looking to move down. I think Mendoza is doomed to be a Jet or a Brown (with the Cardinals as a sleeper, depending on what they decide to do with Kyler Murray).

Both were hard to watch. No doubt. I just know that when watching Clausen I was actively screaming at the TV for his inept play. Bryce, I more felt bad for? Different feelings of frustration.

Give me a choice between the two right now? I'm taking Bryce. It's not false. And it is objective. I'm sorry your "reality" doesn't allow you to see that.

Cam is an exponentially better football player. No question. But saying Bryce is in the same conversation as Clausen? Go back and watch Jimmy again bro. Not even close.

Stroud is who I thought he would be. He is a robot. He will make automatic, open throws, but he will crumble under pressure and in contested situations. People always used the Georgia game as an example of what "he could be". That was the outlier. That's not who he is regularly. The Panthers chose right. Was the choice good enough? This next year will tell us. And before the Bryce bashers say "yeah lets see how he does in year 11... Meh meh meh..." The fact is that this is an ascending roster with expectations going into next season. Bryce has to show up and show out. If he doesnt? 2027 is a good year to need a QB in the draft.

Say what you want about easier paths or whatever, but Cam did have some of the most prolific players in Panthers history on his offense in 2011. Jordan Gross, Ryan Kalil, Steve Smith, Greg Olsen, DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart Bryce had... Taylor Moton? So... Yeah. And this isnt a knock on Cam at all. He elevated this team. It's a knock on Jimmy Clausen. Dude was balls.

But but PFF doesn't know what they are talking about and only give skewed statistics...

Whatever was working last year for the draft, they need to replicate that going forward. Proud of the young guys and I'm excited to see their jump in year 2

All I'm saying is that CJ isn't showing much. If Bryce doesn't pan out, then the Panthers need to draft someone else. Trading for CJ isn't the answer to our problem.

I know you like to be the sarcastic Bryce basher around here, but their trend lines crossed this year. Now it's just about what happens from here.

One QB is getting better every year while one is getting worse every year. It's not crazy logic, it's just logic

You all are this high on Robinson? I have felt like he gets mauled in the run game for such a big guy. Certainly not worth 9.5 mil per. Tremble is the only guy I would try to work out a deal with. Might be our best tight end currently (not saying a lot, but he has made plays)

Absolutely not. It's either Bryce or draft a new QB for the Panthers. Trading for Stroud isn't even a lateral move, it's a step down.

Caleb even said that the route initially called was an over route with DJ crossing over above the other routes. Caleb wanted to change the route and have him flatten out but DJ didn't get the call. Miscommunication. But the fact is that when Caleb let that ball go, DJ was nowhere in the vicinity. He should have seen that and gone elsewhere. It was a bad decision.

He lead DJ too wide and underneath on a crossing route. It was a bad throw. DJ could have shown more effort, but it was only likely to be as a defender on the intercepting player. That's the dichotomy of Caleb so far. He can make some wow plays and some WTF plays. He is actually lucky his supporting cast is so good or else there would be a lot more WTF plays.