Mr. Scot

I'm gonna predict White

I don't think our people necessarily need Tepper's help to make mistakes. They can make enough of them on their own.

And we thought Andy Dalton had another good year in him. Using our own mistake to minimize someone else's mistake doesn't make for a good argument. Lance is not a starter. Doubt he ever will be.

I'm not willing to shift blame for any individual player's sh-tty performance to a separate individual player. That kind of behavior doesn't come from some outside contagion. It starts within. If anything, he should be making more of an effort to play well to compensate for problems at the QB spot. Regardless of Bryce, Legette has to own his own work.

We've done that more than once. I'd insert a memory of JC Price here but his name is about the only thing I genuinely remember about him

Luke shouldn't come back either. I'd say "bother" is probably too strong a word. My reaction when I see it is generally just an eye roll, maybe a head shake. Not sure that qualifies as being "bothered". Mildly amused perhaps

Bottom line for me on this topic... I think the Panthers basically drafted Legette's body without fully taking into consideration that his brain came with it. That's just not a good way to draft...

I could see acquiring Jones as a backup / stopgap. Not so sure that deal involves a straight swap for Bryce, unless Morgan somehow makes a phenomenal sales pitch. Trading low round picks for him seems like a more likely scenario.

And we thought enough of Bryce Young to give up pretty close to that. I'm not in favor of fixing our mistake by turning to someone that's available because someone else made the same mistake we did

Yes, he has. He can't grasp the pro game. It was never gonna happen.

And it ain't like he doesn't have talent and measurables. He has both. He just seems to be wasting them

Good work... Mentioned above, my current lean is toward Bryce being the problem. And it takes me back to the issues we had when Mike Shula was OC. He had on something for the 2015 season (basically heavy run focus including the QB) which is great, but simply coming up with something that works isn't enough in the NFL chess game. If you're truly a chessmaster, you know what to do when somebody finds a way to stop it. Hell, some guys even anticipate those adjustments and plan for them. Shula had no idea how to respond. Last game, Bryce didn't either. So now the big question is what happens next game

Good grief, no

Not at all. The ideal type of QB for the WCO could be described as a... ... point guard Argument basically boils down to saying that the problem is not with system fit. It's either play calling or execution, and the more I think about it the more I lean toward the latter.

Thielen would be my guess.

If you're not giving it your all In your current situation, why should I trust you to give your best efforts in a different one?

That's the thing... He's still living off his college reputation because his NFL rep isn't anything special.

Maybe for one game. I've seen this movie. It doesn't end with us winning.

Feels like at least three players have said something like this, might even be more who think it but haven't said so. It'd be a really big deal to know who they're talking about.

That crossed my mind, too...

No, but some have. Mind you, we have a few who will likely still be talking about bringing him back when he's over fifty

Ranks aren't a big deal to me (like when we were supposedly the second best defense in the league under Phil Snow). My eyes tell me the same story, though. Bryce looked better passing last year than he does now. The question is why...

No one said he was great. Better? Definitely, which is where the question begins.

Unknown what Morgan's full opinion of Young is, but given the investment we have in him and his performance through the end of last season, trying to get whatever they can out of him is reasonable. As far as differences, Fitterer was reported to have more trust in analytics data than Morgan does. Morgan prefers old school eyes on game film scouting.

Jones is a WCO type QB (same as Bryce) but with better measurables.