kungfoodude

Agreed. I think he probably needs a long trek outside the south as a football player to potentially kick start his future. And that is still a long shot.

I have to assume they made them stick to just one thing. IDK that I would say it's the most glaring, either. I think QB play is.

JFC....I was looking at other NFL Missed Tackle stats and I found out that among qualifying players, Jaycee Horn has the worst Missed Tackle Percentage in the entire NFL. I knew he was having a bad season in that regard but I didn't think it was NFL worst level. WTF

Honestly, I might have to take a look at the 3rd down pressure/blitz rates. I don't think we blitz on 3rd down very often.

I do think Rozebum may be near the league leader in missed tackles. Let me verify. Edit: Tied for 9th in the NFL with 17.

100% true. I think he is also just real world, country dumb too.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47451548/2025-nfl-playoff-teams-weaknesses-concerns-flaws-afc-nfc#TB Carolina Panthers FPI chance to win Super Bowl: 0.5% Concerning weakness: Third-down defense The Panthers' defense has a very hard time getting off the field. Carolina ranks 15th on first down by DVOA and 13th on second down. Yet they rank 31st on third down, ahead of only the Cowboys. If you prefer more conventional stats, they rank 31st in conversion rate allowed on third downs; opponents move the sticks 46.7% of the time against the Panthers on third down and 63.6% of the time on fourth down. The Panthers managed to force two turnovers on third down against the Rams in their Week 13 upset, but this is not a trend that has gotten any better in recent weeks. And the top offenses on third down this season include the 49ers, Packers, Eagles and Rams.

I am not opposed to it.

I cannot recall a first round draft pick this overwhelmingly football stupid. Efe Obada had more football awareness and his football background was almost nothing.

His potential will clearly never be realized but he could be, as you said, a priority special teamer. He's athletic enough to potentially excel at that.

Overwhelmingly the least talented. I think people quickly forgot how big of a talent deficit we had last year. That's gonna take at least a couple of more good offseasons to really chip away at that.

People are just refusing to accept he is a bust.

Dude, HELL no. He would do something incredibly stupid like get a fuging penalty or fumble the snap. You do NOT take your least disciplined player and put them in that crucial of a situation. Honestly, if they are going to do a tush push type play, it should be Dowdle getting the snap.

I would disagree. We are also hamstrung by a bottom 5 OC and HC in the NFL. Hence why they seem so unprepared at various times during the season, hence why we see them spontaneously go away from plays that are functional and never return, despite repeated failures. Bryce and Dave deserve co-credit for how shitty we sometimes look. In fact, Dave moreso because his personnel decisions(including Bryce, XL, etc) are fuging terrible at times.

This is why I cannot understand this logic. The "get rid of" ship has sailed. It's just a matter of how long these abusive relationships last.

Lol. I think mentally healthy people don't generally concern themselves with being their own hype man. But you do you, buddy.

I would think they have enough to pencil him in as the starter in 2026. That said, hope he goes out 2025 with a dud and Atlanta romps all over them.

I can't tell if the misuse of Renfrow are his own limited abilities, poor play design for him or Bryce just not being able to recognize him being open before it is a contested catch. We kept throwing him all these contested catches early in the season and he wasn't very good at that in his prime, much less in "shell of himself" mode. That poo still has me scratching my head.

Yes but you are describing the sort of player that warrants a lower round pick because they are extremely risky. Richardson is the ideal example. He was one of the worst 1st round QB prospects coming out of college I have seen in the last 15 years. Completely ill suited to being in the NFL, despite being otherwordly talented. And he has conclusively proven he is not an NFL player. That's why you don't take the XL's of the world over the Ladd McConkey's or the Matthew Golden's over the TMac's. Skill and ability matters more than eye popping underwear Olympics measurables. Willis went about where he should have(if not too high) based on the level of prospect he was. It's great that he looks like he is really turning the corner on his development. But let's also be clear, he has still never been a season starter any any point in his 4 year NFL career. I don't think you are likely to see him get a starters salary anytime soon. Not until he proves it. All that said, I'd be happy to pay him as a top tier backup and give him a shot at winning a starting job in Carolina.

I am sure you tell yourself that in the mirror every morning.

I can't find a source that has snap counts by half. That would take an All 22 look.

I think your takes certainly show that you are very confidently wrong. It's not unusual for the blissfully ignorant.

I don't know how much credit I would give the QB change in Atlanta. During this three game win streak Cousins has only had one game above 200 yards passing. I think it's a combination of things but less to do with the QB(technically, Penis Jr. was a statistically better QB in his 9 starts). Also, while people get worried about New Orleans, don't forget that they are getting less and not more talented over time. Most of their best players are currently over 30 and several are very close to retirement.

Yeah, I mean it's okay to be wrong just like thinking Rozebum isn't a special teams player. I don't doubt you don't want to do a deep dive because I am pretty sure you haven't actually looked at a single depth chart to make those unit by unit comparisons.