kungfoodude

The one thing they can point to is a lot of 1st round draft picks at QB. So, ultimately that does hold a lot of weight, although actual NFL success rates are pretty low at the position for both of those schools. I am curious to see if Alabama improves with their new HC.

I think that would be fine for him if he was still at FAU but being at elite schools you expect(especially in the modern day) that part of the draw of elite programs is NFL preparation. That's where he fails fairly consistently. Especially when you compare him to someone like Lincoln Riley who has a long track record of producing NFL QB's.

The difference is Kiffin's rep as a "QB tutor" which has not been very successful at the NFL level. Also, the limitations I stated do have a stunting impact. If I were advising an elite QB with a potential professional future, I'd definitely steer clear of Lane Kiffin offenses. There are ample coaches/programs that have a pretty good track record for sending quality QB's to the NFL.

Reminder that the Bucs are 1-7 in their last 8 games.

Not to mention a chunk of the QB's on that list are better than Bryce.

Saban consistently complains about the players and the payment of them being the problem with college football and that leading to his retirement, despite being one of the most notorious cheaters in the history of Division 1 football(widely known "secret"). Furthermore, this was all while his entire multi-million dollar house was paid solely by the Alabama alum. Also well known for being an asshole inside his profession. Now, he is a worse human being that most of the "elite" college football(or basketball) coaches? I would say yes, based on anecdotes I have heard and things I have read but it's possible he is more par for the course. But, yeah, he is a raging douche and a wild hypocrite.

Yeah, I think that kills our compensation. It would be fitting for it to end that way for us.

Not 100% sure I can make it but I can provide participants with ample suggestions in that realm. Not a great area for IPA's or wild ales/traditional sours and the two big meaderies are now closed. Tampa Proper(Style strengths in parentheses) Magnanimous(Stouts/Barleywines) Woven Water(Stouts/Barleywines/Fruited Sours) BarrieHaus(phenomenal pilsners/lagers) Angry Chair(Stouts/Barleywines) Ology(Stouts/Barleywines) 7th Sun(Stouts/Barleywines) Coppertail(pilsners/lagers/clean beers) Hidden Springs(Stouts) Clearwater/St. Petersburg(Style strengths in parentheses) Arkane(Stouts/Fruited Sours) Green Bench(Pilsners/Lagers/IPA's/Wild Ales) Outlier Areas(Style strengths in parentheses) Corporate Ladder(Stouts/Fruited Sours) Calusa(Stouts/Fruited Sours)

Lol. He is in the "outside chance" category. I generally think his HC opportunities have dried up pretty well. Honestly, based on what people have said about him, he might be one of these guys better suited to being a HC than running a defense.

Are we able to bring our own booze by chance? NODA is fine but Tampa(and surrounding) is one of the best craft brewing cities on the East Coast.

Kiffin's best QB to date has been Matt Barkley. Likely Dart will be a flop too, TBH(my prediction). Kiffin's offense is basically an Air Raid variant, which doesn't usually translate well to the NFL. Additionally, a lot of the line adjustments tend to be done by the sideline and relayed to the QB. So, you are generally going to get QB's that are stunted in certain areas. Kiffin's track record for producing NFL QB's is very bad.

That isn't a shock. He has that Bobby Petrino vibe.

He consistently leaves for more money. It's his MO historically.

Well if he really cared about a title over the money.....what happened?

What's that now?? I knew Saban was a bad person but this is the first I am hearing of him being a "diddler."

He would get $1 mil from LSU if Ole Miss wins it all. I think in his mind that will be better than the title.

If it isn't an elite QB, there is no reason to burn a pick on overdrafting a QB. We have so many roster needs it's insane. Hopefully someone like Bailey falls or maybe Styles. I highly doubt it but an elite Front 7 defender would be great.

I think that plays a factor for LaMelo, among others. Obviously the biggest being that he just doesn't seem like a guy that will ever be healthy long enough to build around. Also, he still has some maturity issues. He will just basically take himself out of a game every few weeks by losing his poo about some call and then piling up frustration fouls or TO's. I think that goes back to his dad. He always built those kids to focus more on themselves than the game around them. Okay, this was maybe the 4th game I have seen all or part of and I like him. Especially knowing that he wasn't a Lane Kiffin guy the whole time. That's a MASSIVE red flag for QB development. If he was available around the 3rd round or lower, I would absolutely be okay taking a flier on him. Promising prospect. Way more polished than someone like Malik Willis, IMO.

He counts Saban as one of his mentors, so that all tracks. That guy is a horrible human being, as well.

Another bust Lane Kiffin QB. If it wasn't for the Ferris St. stuff. I wouldn't touch Trinidad with a 10 foot pole because of all the bad Lane Kiffin QB's.

That was something I really like about Mendoza, as well. He was a stud and a winner at Cal prior to Indiana. I think that sustained track record of success is important. Now, you asked me about Chambliss a few weeks ago, IIRC. Are you an Ole Miss fan?

Love that. Let him drive that program into the dirt.

I mean, Brees was a sub 6' guy too(although they listed him as 6 foot). It is not a worry if you are an elite player. Even Flutie Flakes was able to succeed at the NFL level at his height. All QB's still need throwing lanes and different QB's play the game in a way that maximizes their abilities so they can be successful. All these sub-6 QB's we are talking about have had more NFL success that easily 80+% of 6-3 or better NFL QB's. That's why I keep beating this horse. It isn't about measurables, it's about abilities. That extends well beyond the QB position. Xavier Legette has elite abilities and measurables. Yet a slight little midget with no where near the athleticism is an infinitely better WR(McConkey). Jonathan Mingo is way more athletic than Puka Nacua. How is that working out? Never hyperfocus on measurables. It's a small part of a much bigger picture.

I do think his below average arm strength is an issue because his footwork is still fuged up too often. He isn't one of these guys that can arm throw his way out of trouble. He doesn't have a true noodle arm but it is in the bottom quarter of the NFL. I do agree that his confidence and field reading ability are much larger issues.

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/ncaa/lane-kiffin-pockets-major-bonus-after-ole-miss-cfp-win-over-georgia-11295783 The fact he got LSU to pay him bonuses for Ole Miss winning games is so bananas. LSU really is an insanely stupid school.