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Coker was held. It was a timing route.

Defensive holding not called on Coker.

Yes! Jewell!

Okay. I'm pissed. Sweep the leg, Johnny!

Nothing good ever lasts. ...sigh

I'd much rather have a confident team and the #8 pick. Bryce (Stroud) and now Caleb Williams (Daniels) prove that the consensus #1 overall doesn't mean poo.

Man I love to see a gassed defense on the other side!

Wrong thread

Wins and losses don't mean a lot to me in what's effectively a wasted season. ButI am positively surprised that I was actually entertained by a Panthers game!

Good stand by the D. Maybe Canales knows what he's doing after all.

Honestly, good for you. And silver lining, the odds of your daughter being traumatized by witnessing a drunken brawl among surly idiots is minimal when the closest fan is probably in a different section.

No name school. That's really the only reason.

It's LONG overdue. That's what I was saying about firing Fitterer. You can only feel so good about cutting him out because the scouting that's been feeding him with the reports that led him to make bad decisions is still here.

Happy for Coker! Don't care at all out Bryce's stats. It's not all about him. I want our other players to have something to feel good about.

One more INT?

There will be teams with similar records. There is absolutely no debate that the Panthers are the worst team in the league.

Considering we're trying to trade him for more than a bag of chips, how is that bad?

You know, I saw the first drive on the ticker and almost went to the bar to watch the rest. Turns out I was right skipping this one.

One year does not a career make. There's an enormous difference between scrapping together a competent line for one year, and making a concerted effort to ensure the health and longevity of your franchise QB. The only O-Lineman we drafted over the next 3 seasons was Taylor Moton. We didn't draft a guard until the 6th round in 2021 after the Super Bowl. You can't tell me that's making an effort to protect #1.

It's very easy to point the finger elsewhere, but the Panthers bear a LOT of the blame for Cam's abbreviated career. We never adequately attempted (or attempted at all, really) to build an offensive line around Cam. We're still dealing with the aftershocks of that decisions now, because our line has been a liability for going on a decade now.

Yeah, I don't have much to add to what CRA said. I want to see downfield passing. ACCURATE downfield passing. Downfield completions. Not interceptions. Not sailing. Not skipping. That's the only thing he could show me that makes me have hope. But likewise, I expect I'll actually see a bunch of outlets, dump offs, screens, and five-yard hooks.

How the hell are you playing Moneyball in a league with a salary cap?

Cornerstone of the roster traded for pick to be squandered at a later date.

This. I don't think anyone would fault the organization for missing on Bryce if we'd taken him number 1 overall. Misses happen. We'd be salty, for sure, considering we could have had Stroud. But we'd get over it. But you simply cannot trade your first round pick, next year's first round pick, the following year's second round pick, and your #1 wide receiver for a player who isn't a consensus #1 overall generational QB. ESPECIALLY if the guy you're giving all that up for doesn't look like a prototypical NFL QB. I've never seen, and I hope I never experience again, such a franchise-derailing move. This wasn't a setback. This was a collapse.

We're horrific. But we didn't go ohfer so we can't be the worst ever. By any metric, you can't be the worst ever if you actually won a game. But in all my time watching, I can say this is handily the worst Panthers team I've ever seen fielded.