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That’s not going to work we’re talking draft positions when drafted Brown was/is a Defensive Tackle and DJ Wonnum is definitely a DE. When drafting this year Grahams a clear DT and A Carter is a clear DE if Carter comes in and plays DE/LB oh ok big deal you know what I mean as far as contributing to winning ways. Not playing the semantics game what player do you think will impact winning next season more MG or AC?

Man I’m not trying to be a dck my bad, just talking a little smack but I was serious about the benefits of Graham over Carter based off how much he can impact winning for us next season.

And to follow up that thought for the sake of conversation would anyone in here rather have Chase Young then Derrick B these last couple of years. Just another example of how drafting DE just because you think you draft a DE first shows how that thought process leaves a team set back. If we can end up at 3/4 and trade back and acquire an additional 2nd we could really fill out our roster but if not take Graham if he checks out let’s start controlling both lines of scrimmage 3 downs straight getting the ball back to our dare I say explosive offense (lol). He seems like the perfect fit we definitely need a DE a very good one drafted early but Wonnum has shown up since returning putting him next to Brown should look real real good. Put him next to two dominate run stuffing/pass rushing DTs and the other side can be manned by a complimentary group of guys DJ Johnson, Barno/Clowney/FA addition. Isn’t it easier to manufacture pass rush pressure then stop the run, but we’ll see which way we go in April.

I once again wake up eat my breakfast and then read bs…man your logic only works in your head I can give you multiple examples but I’ll start with one easy clear example of it matters who you’re getting and what you’re planning on doing. Jadevon C and Khalil Mack were drafted before Aaron Donald 2014 biggest mistake of the draft as we look back and redraft or whatever. It doesn’t make sense to take a DE over a DT thats a stud game changing elite defensive player. You can’t draft of generalization typically you want a DE first but nowadays DT are just as impactful so you better choose right LA got a chip bc of Donald meanwhile K Mack is on his second team and J Clowney on his third team. We don’t draft positions we draft elite prospects Graham seems to be a more productive disruptive player than either DE we may get. A Carter who I want is a Micah P clone they say I can see him impacting the pass game but the run game might leave him as a non factor. And right now our main focal point on defense this offseason will be stopping the run. We’ll be able to create pressure with A Barno back Wonnum healthy and a mix of blitzing which has helped us generate pass rush lately. Graham if he allows us to stop the run and he generates a pass rush himself which at Michigan he’s know to do both consistently helps our defense then start controlling games would be a better pick then Carter for us moving forward so let’s dive deeper then just pick a DE over a DT because there’s so many factors to weigh out with these top ten picks in the nfl draft.

Either or but I’m leaning towards Graham because run stuffing with pass rush would be a big time difference maker. I’m leaning Graham but Carter from Penn State can’t complain about either one.

lol I was screaming laugh like this dude must be slow and Caleb looks azz overall I’ve watched this game really closely he’s missed just about all his throws outside of about 3-4 I mean i feel like I’m watching Bryce 2.0 and then to run into a LB has to be the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a while.

I’m hoping for that exact same scenario, two seconds would be big for us. I’d hope for 3 impact players. A WR/DL/DE that can contribute like this current class would be key to our rebuild.

Once again context matters thanks for a more in depth look at this. Glad to see Teddy two gloves throwing 31 out of 36 passes near the line of scrimmage and somebody’s trying to compare it to Bryce throwing dimes all over the field when will the hate stop and we tip our hat to him for his game vs KC while waiting on him to show what he can do this week. Just remember XL makes that sideline catch Bryce probably hits 300 passing yards, no PI AT probably brings down that TD giving Bryce 300. I’m waiting for this weekend can he continue to ascend weekly we'll see Sunday.

They got him for free if anything happens to either of the two top targets he’ll ascend right into a starting spot. Not a bad deal for them wish we could have worked things out with him we’d have a little more pop on offense but we’re better off in the long run and he wanted out in major way so everybody wins.

Yea after reading this thread I felt like I had to add to what you were saying. When having this discussion you can’t say oh he didn’t throw into a double coverage man whoopty f….do but he threw it 40 yards downfield on a rope with pinpoint accuracy that shhhh equals the same dam throw. Give the man his credit we’ve all seen him play like poo for way to long trashed him bashed him etc now that’s he’s actually playing like the player we were expecting and happens to be doing things a number one pick should do can we give him the same Got D… energy we did when we were killing him. He hadn’t arrived but to say he hasn’t done something when there’s clear film he has and can and then move the goal post to oh show me a throw into double coverage knock it off it’s getting close to goofy levels.

This is actually a good discussion that dime to Legette was about 35 yards very accurate but not the TD throw to AT, but I definitely found Bryce hitting passes extremely similar to Andy I didn’t think Bryce could a couple weeks ago but that’s just not true he can. 32 sec mark he drops a dime 40 yards down the field where only Cooker can catch it with plenty zip with elite accuracy, I’d say the exact same dime Andy threw just diff part of the field. Bryce is showing he can make every throw Andy can make. And your question is way to specific to find examples but I can find you very similar plays and If my boy Legette catches the dam ball Bryce might be able to have a deep TD pass that traveled about 30+ yards in the air we just need him to catch the ball and take off up the field but that’s not my argument I’m here to show Bryce throwing similar darts to Andy in his first year of being in a competent offense. TMJ and DJ Chark Mingo Ian Thomas lol and others as your go to weapons I’d say can have a major negative affect on your performances. But to address the argument here Bryce has film doing what Andy can do here’s the proof. (See video above)

This is fake news as Trump would say. Nobody’s comparing seasons the nfl pundits ESPN first take si.com and other outlets are stating what we’re saying in this thread it looks like he’s regressing. Now to address your statement their leading their division ummm have you seen their defensive rankings compared to ours. You’re cherry picking which you can’t do with me I’m not a poster who’s here to argue I like thoughtful in depth convos. They have the 4th ranked defense put that in Carolina don’t you think we’d probably lead our division this year realistically. With the offense you’ve seen the last four weeks being average let’s just say with a 4th ranked defense how’d do you think we’d look or how many more wins would we have? You can’t say oh but they still lead their division knock it off it’s bc they have a terrible division and an elite defense. CJ is dealing with issues Bryce dealt with bad Oline and he has weapons but they’ve missed time and when out he’s looked below average having multiple 2pick games, the man’s had a 4 sack game followed by a 8 I repeat 8 sack game that’s a bad Oline leaving him to regress so Panther Bryce fans can’t pipe down we’re just stating facts bc yes they’re winning with a elite defense give a little more context to your statements it Matters!

Because the ones we have aren’t tackling so we’re looking for someone similar who’s willing to tackle as you just pointed out. Ones mid tier one may be a notch lower but if the guy lower is willing to get in there and wrap up make the tackle before the guy runs ten yards down the field we’d like to pay you for your services. Bc as you stated we Need guys who can Tackle in a bad f…way

Yea he got picked on by a All pro wr and a all pro QB I’m not use to JC ever being targeted repeatedly but DHop getting passes from Mahomes seemed to be enough to actually get off on JC he’s had about two bad weeks this entire season right? I think he’s still That Guy prior to this game he was rated one of the best CBs this year. This week vs Evans should be the perfect bounce back opportunity especially with his familiarity with Evans.

This is a wild statement it’s to late to save his season with six games left? That mountain of bad film as a rookie with trash coaching a weak azz line and dismal WRs. Guys that can’t catch on with other teams or guys traded to teams that are subpar at best. We put Bryce in a terrible situation to start his career does that matter to you or you feel he should’ve, as a rookie elevate this dumpster fire. If you’re giving him a fair assessment judge him off the last four games a good o-line decent WRs still not comparable to any other young QB WR room Hou (tank/nico..) Tua (Hill/Waddle) Caleb (Moore/Rome/Allen) let’s see what he can do with a decent structure around him for the next few weeks then let’s revisit how we’re going to grade or assess his performances.

Yea we need a offsetting WR we got our big bodies now we need speedster that can contribute I’d rather Luther then Mac… (AZ wr) we need blazing speed to compliment our two really 3 big WR including J Sanders. I completely agree, I was stating that yesterday with my brother we need to give Bryce his D Smith (eagles) or John Meetchie type players he flourished with in college and someone who gives us that instant YAC.

It’s looking that way are cbs miss tackles leave their defenders wide open man we need help opposite Horn. It’s like they throw it Mike Jacks way over and over all Damm game.

Yea that pissed me off even though I’m not mad at the losing based off what it means he coulda attempted a tackle his job may be at stake soon if this kid sticks or gets it because that effort was atrocious.

If you could tell me how he is going to play I’d like to know in advance so when I’m cooking up my parlays I can maximize my money this Sunday. You’re either a real deal hater of Bryce and I’m not mad at you if you are he’s looked terrible for way to long or you don’t want to admit that Bryce is getting better each week. Because I definitely expect him to play at that level or better this week he’s been building on each performance since the benching. He know has his ace back if Cooker plays this week I expect more big plays this week then last week. I expect the same or better comp percentage. I don’t see why I wouldn’t except to see what I’ve been seeing the last 4 games are you saying he peaked out be LC and is going to turn back into panic man in the pocket Bryce this week I need your input so I can degenerate sports bet player prop my friend lol.

I was hoping Barno was back he has a little pop to him food gene I think before looking it up he had good pressure numbers. But this is odd maybe we need the coaches tape he must’ve been out there missing tackles as missing assignments consistently lol.

I was about to make sure that was clearly pointed out to the masses. Anybody going against Chris J usually ends up with a low pff grade absolutely nothing to worry Anton that regard

I saw that the refs bailed us out I died laughing the man threw AT never looked back the refs make a normal PI call that every team gets in all situations and out fans were screaming the refs helped us like wtf so they expect we shouldn’t get the same calls as every one else. It was even subjective it was clear as day AT probably pull that in for a TD with no interference but it was clearly a PI

As far as the rest of the season I based off how we progressed as a team these last few weeks, the Eagles are the only game I'd pencil in a L. Besides that we're playing on the level or better then Bucs/Atl/Az etc is say 4-2 not what I want but our offense is should be able to score consistently on any of the last few opponents and no one left has a defense comparable to the Chiefs but that's why the game is played on the field and not in forum chats.

He was the name that popped off the list for me as well.

It didn’t feel like we’re the Bills bc we’re not a consistent conference contender yet we’re a rebuilding team. But with the game on the line we played just like the Bills went straight down the field and scored a tuddy then converted a 2pt conversion I have to give credit where credit is due. And the chiefs played us like we were the Bills in an AFC championship game, drive down the field and kicked a walk off FG to win at the end very similar to me. Are saying our defense stunk yesterday? Vs an elite offense team with elite coaching an elite QB man idk what you want them to do. KC does these things to the best defenses in the league consistently to win AFC chips and Super Bowls let’s not devalue who they are. I saw us play KC to the wire and barely lose defense did its thing as much as it could. Bingo!!! We’re also forgetting how injured we’ve been defensively this year, yes we need to build up the D but adding a few pieces and D Browns successful rehab should make us a very strong unit again. Couple that with the offense we saw yesterday and we’re winning our division.