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Said when he was drafted, there was a Cam Newton aspect to him.....you almost had to go all in on a one of one offense made just for him. We made it clear we were never going to do that and therefore the entire thing was pointless. Putting him in Frank's offense and than Canales O is just mind boggling. I was pro Bryce for a minute. But once it was clear we were just inserting him into traditional offenses and playcallers? Well, it was time to move on yesterday.

sports IMO at all levels is a much more simplistic thing to figure out than so many pretend it is. It's sort like Greg Olsen was saying.....coaching at every level of the sport is basically the same lol. From his kid to the NFL. Now does the NFL have some complex schemes and play designs? Sure. But Bryce Young wasn't a fit for Frank or Canales....and close to have the board has basically wished both true from the start when it was always glaring mismatches.

To me, the Tepper era is defined by random parts and then acting confused when things that don't fit, don't fit.

but the real question to pose Canales, given what the % of QBs sneaks converted is......how can you justify not having that play given the success rate of it in the NFL vs other run plays on short yardage.

yep, and that's what 99.9 fan hit so well. The Bryce curve and bar that is unique to him. People are saying he is trending up.....despite playing below average/poorly (by the standards applied to other QBs) in 4 of the last 6 games and majority of the season.

I mean, that was a "good" Bryce day. And as the folks on 99.9 fan said well..... ultimately, given what his good days overall are....that's the big picture issue. Because a good day for Bryce isn't how you identify a good day for the rest of the league's starting QBs. A good day isn't 175 yards, maybe a TD, maybe a turnover. So it's big picture problems vs literally what cost us that particular game. People talk both and should be able to. That's why Bryce is brought up. He represents the big picture issue even if it didn't literally cost us the game.

When XL was drafted it was acknowledged by many he wouldn’t be very good paired with Bryce….which he isn’t. Bryce had something to do with that. Bryce needs players that help him, XL needs a QB that helps him. He is raw and what he should be doing we don’t really do. you ask him to participate in our bad screen game and run crisp routes to catch spotty balls? That’s not XL. XL just flat out needs to time out physical and run dudes downfield…..and then needs good balls on to of that.

I like how AT is now being treated like XL in order to defend Bryce Young lol.

Saying the right things in front of the camera at a holiday event for kids....doesn't mean poo lol We have 2 pro sports teams and his business dealings to actually judge Tepper off of. Nothing says he is going to let a losing coaching (with no history of doing anything) start from scratch at year 4. And again, that extends way beyond Tepper to other teams at that point. Coaches don't get that sort of time in today's world. you just want to argue things at this stage because none of that is rooted in what we know if Tepper.

history says there is zero chance David Tepper lets a losing HC have a shot to do it "his way" starting year 4. Heck, not even Tepper. You can go league wide with that. Coaches aren't afforded that sort of time line in today's NFL.

I think Horn really just had one really bad play Sunday. But that's sort of what you pay him for.....that one man on man play at the goal vs Olave. That's supposed to be Horn's strength. Being able to play man over zone. I still think Horn lacks the one season that actually proves he is what we think he is.

the biggest problem Carolina has....is the bleed over they allow from one mess to the other. All the hiring and firing Tepper did, he never gave the org a cleaned house and a group with a legit fresh start. Always the last era seeping over.

clearly, Bryce's family is here. And Zod has purchased one of those Russian bot farms to spam the board with horrific QB play takes defending Bryce Young

Mimicking Mr. Scot is horrible strategy is not a good look. But have at it. I mean, there was no sound argument you can make against that post so i sort get that....but... It must be a weird place to be so invested in defending a meh QB 24/7 as not meh when the bar is much higher.....that you got to gaslight and create alternate realities.

Well, they aren’t laughing at Mahomes for not running the sneak…..because they know why KC now doesn’t. Which would not be why Carolina doesn’t. Every player in the field would know the difference in two situations.

We don’t have a bottom 10 OL We don’t have a bottom 10 backfield which is why we heave a top 10 ranked rush attack despite subpar QB play and everyone knowing we are going to run it. and we don’t have a bottom 10 offensive roster given the first two facts are true

Saints had 3 possessions in the 4th - 10 points Panthers had 3 possessions in the 4th (not counting their 4th) - 0 points

Bryce doesn’t generate average production from the QB spot…. so a Panther team with little invested in their D becomes overly reliant to win games in ways they haven’t structured the team to win them. that factors. was Bryce horrific? All things being equal did he lose the game? No. But everyone isn’t judging all things equally. PJ Walker isn’t held to the same expectations as prime Cam Newton. And at some point, you just have to acknowledge Bryce doesn’t carry the load anyone in his position is expected too. Shough just happens to make that glaring. Bryce being throughly outplayed….is a key reason we lost. The PJ Walker bar isn’t Bryce’s and folks have to raise it

It’s slightly different. Most of those teams aren’t doing it because their QBs are incapable…. so the message to everyone is a little different.

We have a bottom 3rd QB, leading a bottom 3rd offense. yay! PFF graded him 2nd best Sunday on Carolina’s offense.

Yep. We have invested in this team significantly lopsided. It should be an O heavy team at this stage even if not consistent. But it’s an archaic O because of the QB.

Bryce’s base level of play he brings to your average game is that of a backup. Backups can be good for like 1 or 2 throws. Scramble a lot because they don’t pull the trigger on plays and generate about 175 passing yards. so while Bryce might not lose it with horrific play…..the entire structure of the blueprint was for him to carry a much larger load than he is capable of. The bar for Bryce is supposed to be high…..his defenders want the bar rolling on the floor. Games against the Shoughs of the NFL just highlight how far we lower the bar for Bryce. and it’s a QB league. Nothing will ever really matter until we solve that so Bryce will always dominate conversation.

His O is just built on taking repeated shots and that’s not BY’s game. It was always a round peg and square hole…. But I also agree with your post. I hate OC HCs. Especially green ones. I never liked anything about the setup. He should have had a real OC. Focused on learning to be a HC.

We know Canales O averaged 225 per game his one year calling plays without Bryce…..and his QB had more 300+ yards game than Bryce has 200+ yard games that season.

You think because Bryce didn’t lose it….he isn’t at fault. Bryce is at fault because the expectations for him are different than for PJ Walker. It’s not complicated. Bryce being outplayed by Shough again is why he is a key issue in almost every game.