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Offensive Schemes, Running Game & Blocking FYIs
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Then that means you, Mr Scott, believe the following. . All Fitterers additions this offseason in Miles, Theilen, Chark, Hurst were matches for a Bryce Young/Frank O scheme we would be running Frank Reich was hired and allowed to whatever he wanted and that Tepper didn’t impose on him. this isn’t Frank Reich’s core O the playbook is built around. That Frank would be coming in and running himself. Thomas Brown built an offense out of thin air old dinosaur Frank just had to call himself. lol -
Offensive Schemes, Running Game & Blocking FYIs
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I’ll repeat them again for you. Given you still seem confused about what people are suggesting for you to entertain. Fitterers adds this offseason don’t match what his HC and QB would be doing and want to do on offense. Tepper has had tremendous influence over what this all star would look like post Rhule. Frank wasn’t coming in here doing whatever he wanted. this is Frank Reich’s O at the end of the day. With whatever tweaks any staff would always make to it at any stop. Everyone knew that coming. Which is why Frank was coming in calling his baby. I assume you have conceded this Frank’s O at the end of the day after your lectures about how totally wasn’t. But I can’t tell up from down with you -
Time table wise, if Fields flopped here….we could at look the 2024 QBs. and just think of all the assets between that draft year to today we lost for a QB. Fields fell in our lap. That’s why you take him given what we were. It was the smart front office play.
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Offensive Schemes, Running Game & Blocking FYIs
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Missed this, you intentionally recreate what others suggest… it is Fitterers fault for not matching the talent to the scheme that would be run. That’s his job. Talent doesn’t match. Specifically all his additions. the suggestion is Tepper dictated what the staff would look like and it wasn’t Frank’s vision to do whatever he wanted. Which included having Frank bring in dinosaurs to oversee everything after the Rhule debacle where they didn’t even know how to run a practice. Everything has been an overcorrection by Tepper lmao, now you concede it’s Frank’s O at the end of the day. The one he came here to call and run and is. @AU-panther asked you a simple question. Feel free to respond to him. You said you addressed it and it appears everyone missed that. -
I play in a money league and I watch games based on that at this point. I’m playing the Titans D (intentionally pick up who we play at this point) and I’m going to gamble on big arm Levis chucking it to Nuk in my flex Plus this should be a game changer week if we lose. You can’t lose to the Bagent Bears and Levis Titans in a 3 week span given how this has gone and nothing happen.
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That’s also Geno and Jimmy G Surtain - Mahomes 2x every year, Herbert 2x every year, Allen, Burrow, Lawerence, Dak, Hurts, Tua, etc, and those elite QBs are throwing to elite weapons. That’s what has made his job significantly tougher. Horn suited up against a grand total of 1 elite QB for a full game and it was over in the first quarter with them not even having to try to throw because Joe Mixon had the best game of his career and a field day. Horn flat out hasn’t had to defend elite QB play like Surtain. Maybe he is better. Who knows. He is good when he has played. Surtain’s competition has just been different and much tougher. I mean, Jaycee Horn could shutdown a prime Megatron to 0 yards if I was QB. QB play is relevant to the convo and Horn hasn’t seen it.
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Jaycee Horn has played so little in his career….we really never seen have face a tough assignment. Given that, it’s hard to make the better when healthy argument.
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the only SC people care Bowl Y’all remember over 50+ years ago when the Gamecocks won that one ACC championship? Clemson by 100 tonight in that upside down dead cockroach looking stadium with their poo techno music (obviously this assumes Clemson doesn’t fumble 8 times inside the Gamecock 10 yard line and all aren’t returned for TDs, in addition to Clemson not covering the only player they have in Legette who adds on an additional 8 TDs for 500 yards by himself resulting in a massacre, which totally could happen with the return to the era of Clemsoning football).
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Jay Feely says Matt Rhule treated people "crappy" while in Carolina
CRA replied to Dorian Gray's topic in Carolina Panthers
Frank Reich makes Ron Rivera and John Fox look like the 2 most fiery coaches in NFL history. He has never had even a moment on the sidelines showing he gives a fug. Thin line between emotional intelligence and apathy. Dude needed a year or two off to self scout why he sucked as a HC. Which is probably what the other 31 front offices would have said if they were in need of a HC. First would be the need to hire an OC to do the job at his next stop. -
I’m not implying he would do the same thing here… just pointing out we are attempting to develop a dink and dunker QB….and we traded away one of the top 10 offensive players in the entire NFL (who is built to aid a dink and dunker) for frankly nothing (and taking a huge cap hit this year on him) and yes, DJ Moore is another example. everything is just different examples of a poor front office with a poor plan vision there definitely is a luck/unlucky aspect to some things. I think most reasonable people thought trading CMC locked in that #1 overall pick in the moment. But you aren’t this bad for this long…..if you don’t have horrible people in your front office. It’s not just Tepper. There are lots of controlling and meddling owners with good talent. Tepper has bad people in the front office. We still need to burn this thing down. Again.
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We already paid him though. Which is why he is a huge cap hit for us right now despite not playing here. And we are developing a rookie QB who we mortgaged the future for right now….not in win now mode. So just from a developmental standpoint of Bryce Young and where we presently are….that deal and even the inclusion of DJ Moore in the other just don’t really make sense big picture. the vision and overall whatever this group is doing is just bad. The front office doesn’t seem to have a plan. They seem reactionary. but we shouldn’t of paid CMC when we did. And I don’t endorse paying RBs in general. I have said that since we talked of paying DWill. In all honesty, I think the actual reason we traded CMC was the front office organizing a tank for the #1 overall. And that didn’t work. Nothing they do works. But I 100% believe they thought trading CMC guaranteed them the #1 pick in the draft. They didn’t think or see Wilks pulling off what he did. He fugged it up lol.
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Matt Rhule’s wife likely made one the best picks…..but there is no way a huddler could ever compete with this braintrust on draft day per some.
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CMC is really a RB/WR though. He is a tad abnormal. issue there is simply you drafted a rookie dink and dunker (mortgaged the short term) and traded away the the ideal player to pair him with for development with for essentially nothing to gain offensively. I can get down with not overpaying a RB in the big picture. It’s not smart. It’s also not smart to try to develop a QB with nothing and CMC was already here and is a 18M cap hit in Carolina this year despite not playing here. Big picture, I don’t think you should pay RBs big money. But that particular trade was bad given we needed to develop Bryce, what we got for him, the little we did with it, and the fact CMC is still impacting our cap in a trade.
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I’m not sure Matt Rhule qualifies as a sports world shitty person. He was just a joke coach. he spent years here and when he walked out the door….no one named or unnamed has said or leaked anything about him being a garbage human. He just didn’t know what he was doing. Which is why we “hate” him. I think it’s largely just incompetence vs shitty perosning. I mean largely it’s his excuse making from the podium that earned him that narrative but I think that’s just a drowning coach out of his league. He wasn’t Urban Meyer. He is just a fool. Who no one has ever really trashed to my knowledge as a person.
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Such a joke. Fitterer traded away the potential league MVP to draft DJ Johnson lol. CMC probably has more offense than Bruce Young as a RB.
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Marty Hurney was a sports writer, turned NFL PR guy, turned admin guy, turned NFL GM. NFL has all sorts of dudes making decisions that are the brainiacs some pimp.
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How was Brock Purdy’s brother 3rd on Matt Rhule’s depth chart all season??
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Titans have a superior RB and a superior WR. They also have almost double the amount of big offensive plays. their rookie, while not good, can make every throw and threatens the entire field
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A distraction. To appease an angry and disinterested fanbase.
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Is this the thread people are going to bump when Nuk Hopkins goes for 150 on us and all the “see we should have signed him” people post?
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Offensive Schemes, Running Game & Blocking FYIs
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Small ball isn’t a made up concept lol. Dink and dunk. It’s has lots of names. We play and a shrunken version of football. Can it be done? Sure. It’s can even be done at an elite level. Tom Brady spent many years playing elite small ball. Sometimes behind a bad OL. It’s why his top receivers several years in a row were a real slot WR and a pass catching RB. But Edelman, White, etc actually fit that game. Leading 2 receivers back to back years for him. Thielen is just force feed. It’s why the 2nd most productive WR on Sundays is now consistently only generating about 10 yards of offense. It’s why we can barely score 10 points and ONE of the reasons we have the worst pass attack in the NFL. He has stats that are a byproduct of their entire pass game being forced to him. He doesn’t actually have the skill set needed to be what he is asked to be on this offense. He is slow. He can’t get his routes run fast enough. That kills plays. When he does get his hands on the ball he has zero separation and when a miracle happens and he does he has no YAC ability. Adam Theilen doesn’t have the skill set needed for the role . Does he catch balls and is he the best WR we have on the team? Yes. -
Offensive Schemes, Running Game & Blocking FYIs
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Bryce Young was clearly coming into the season going to be a shotgun heavy, pass heavy and a certified small ball QB. That was talked about coming in. Playing 20 yards of the field. That’s it. Everyone knows it. That’s what we do. Every opponent knows this as well. that is exactly what he has been. That’s the setup. That’s the design of what Frank is calling and has been out of the gate. he doesn’t have small ball weapons. Zero. That’s being setup to fail. A small ball offense with no working parts at the skill position. Then obviously there are tons of other reasons why we suck added on top. Frank is bad and can’t adjust to not having the parts. OL is a joke in this scheme. Sanders and Hubbard aren’t small ball RBs. They are early down runners. They suck in pass pro. There routes suck. It’s often highlighted on QB School. Theilen isn’t a slot small ball WR. Chark isn’t a small ball WR. Mingo might could be in theory but was raw coming in and frankly shouldn’t be on the field right now with that horrific route running. It’s why when you watch QB School…..he destroys everyone running routes. They can’t get to where they need to be in time. Everyone is too slow in the routes and running them poorly. Theilen is the prettiest ugly chick and we overplay him as result. He can’t get to his spot quick enough. When he gets there he is smothered and if by some miracle he gets open he has zero YAC ability. And QB School isn’t making these points and now being echoed….all that was called before week 1 kicked off. -
Offensive Schemes, Running Game & Blocking FYIs
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
The actual argument we are having is Fitt is a horrible GM and should be fired. The board universally agrees with that. It’s basically you that doesn’t. #winninginyoureyes -
Offensive Schemes, Running Game & Blocking FYIs
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
electro said Fitt is garbage and needs to be sent packing