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Painful part about Bryce is he is sort of risk adverse and still implodes games. It’s easier to swallow with a PJ Walker Dalton can probably muster up 1-2 games. He is his too old and washed to have out there long

Yeah, I’m not even hating. But playing in the SEC, with a meh OL and meh weapons (I mean Harbor is more fast than good)….and Mike Shula calling the O is not the recipe to develop like he needs. Plus I don’t think a hot seat Beamer can fix it in the portal all in one year

I like him. He just needs to develop more and he needs to stay in college a year. he also needs to get out of SC and go to a stacked team (with a good OC) where developing is easier when not forced into a hero ball role.

Now that Clemson is total asscheeks….that GT/UGA game is one I got circled to watch. It can’t top last years but I’ll be pulling for Tech from here on out

My bad lol, I did. Thought you were inventing a hypothetical team into the mix. LG addressed that FSU team. Injury kept them out. Injury to King would be massively more impactful than a loss for the committee. Commiteee would drop them massively if King went down in the ACC title game

But again, GT would be sitting as a top 3 team if they went into the ACC title game undefeated….and then lost. There would zero way the committee could knock them far with their only L being a title loss, with the UGA win with a healthy QB. Committee already has been clear they don’t want the conference titles to negatively impact teams (because that hurts the SEC absent BIG10 teams) I’m also ONLY arguing for GT and their setup. Not some hypothetical ACC team in another season.

FSU can‘t be 13-0 if GT are the 12-1 ACC champs. They also are auto in as the ACC champs. but let’s say they lose in the ACC title game to get to 12-1…..they are still 100% are in the CFP. Pending King is healthy. They would be an undefeated top 3 team going into the conference championship knocking down UGA and the committee doesn’t hammer you for the conference championship L

12-1 makes them a top 5 team going into the playoffs IMO. Where you putting a 12-1 ACC champ? How could you put that outside the top 10 I mean, that’s the resume that got you into the 4 team playoff. Not sure how a loss to UGA would send them out of the top 10

I think GT will be 12-1 going into the playoffs. That will be a top 5 team. They already are a top 10 team. King is the best football player. Mendoza the best QB

Bryce has played a big role often in our losses. He can lose a game in the first quarter.

Nah, he wasn’t playing. And that’s answered by Cam after the incident as he walked off trying to reign it all back in

Totally agree. In real life. But, I would think context here has to matter. They decided to do a silly bit for TV with mascots. Which means it’s not real life. So mascot, tv, silly, light hearted entertainment rules are in play. And a mascot doing something like putting someone’s hat on their head isn’t outlandish. in the end, Cam handled that horrifically. And I’m as pro Cam as anyone.

I mean, Vegas is the opposite of stupid

I mean, it was true for the week he was declared best deep passer in the NFL. That's why the 1 completion is entrenched in my memory bank. and there is a post that breaks down every single 20+ yard throw last year. It has the video to go with it. I'll find it later. He barely went downfield and the results were bad vs his peers. That's not a myth. Generally the Bryce defense is a technicality game IMO. Where you he is criticized for doing something poorly over a long stretch of time and people cherry pick some exceptions to the collective work.

you tell me what the QB who played vs the Jags, Cards, Falcons, Patriots, Jets should be described as. The word is below average. Which is the majority of his games. Which was my post. What is the QB rating? He presently ranks with the 30th highest this season on ESPN with their qualified QBs. And this is the "good" Bryce lol.

yeah, I wish NextGen wouldn't skip random games. For whatever reason they didn't do his week 17 game. In fact, the 2 games they didn't do for him appear to be both the Tampa Bay games. Other Tampa game isn't there either. Everything else is there.

maybe, I noted that Next Gen was missing a couple games. That's all I can go off of. What game was that.

yeah, a lot of that has been addressed in old Bryce talks. He barely has plays to those deeper sections. It was broken down with the "best deep passer in the league"........when he had like 1 completion. Other dudes were going 3/4 w/ TDs those weeks. And Bryce getting a completion was rare.

Bryce didn't have those same weapons on his late season run that Andy had in his 2 cherry picked horrible games. Dionte was traded. Mingo was traded. Sanders gone for the majority. Adam Thielen returned. Andy was over 220+ in 3 (majority) of his games. And again, Andy Dalton is old and washed. He is not good. No one ever says he is good. The Panthers were a more threatening team overall in Dalton's starts both seasons in the pass game vs when Bryce is on the field. In Dalton's handful of games, attacked downfield at a rate Bryce Young just flat out doesn't do....and saw more production 20+ downfield in that tiny window last year than Bryce did on the season and getting most of the work. And I'm pretty sure in his handful of starts in Carolina, Dalton has more actual production 20+ yards than Bryce in his entire career, despite Bryce dominating starts the past 2+ years. Like not close.

Partial story telling. Because it ignores actual production in those areas and how often you are doing it. And that's where things really get out of whack w/ Bryce vs the league. Bryce wasn't really completing or throwing balls past 20 yards. Which is why our passing O never really produces anything and it's a bottom tier pass attack. Others, can share the efficiency.....and drastically out perform him in production. If you put up the production stats of Bryce vs the field in those areas of the field....it would look MUCH different. And that's why we say it.

No, but a washed Dalton's primary weapon was the basket case named Dionte Johnson who I think was traded like a week after those games. 2 rookies and THE David Moore. QBs are going to have a bit of rollercoaster ride when that's what you are working with (especially meh QBs). Some bad weeks are going to be part of it. And Dalton gave folks a mixed bag. think what Andy is going to show you is glimpses of what a different style QB can potentially give you. But Andy is old and washed. Expecting good and complete games from him isn't really where he is at.

Glad you called him out. Because Bryce Young doesn't have the 24th best comp %. Amongst qualifying QBs on ESPN Young is actually 29th in comp %. And 31st in pass yards per game. You were right to question that, clearly he was worse than they implied if you factor in all the qualifying QBs.

I have never really talked about 30 yards bombs. But stretching a D beyond 20 matters and that's Young's biggest issue. Because that opens up the intermediate stuff....and NFL defenses have cheated the intermediate stuff the entire time he has been in the league. From week 1 of his rookie year through his 3rd season.

I mean he got stepped on one play. I'm sure it hurt. He certainly looks fine. QBs have suited up all season w/ grade one ankles and looked worse off than Bryce during the week. Bryce didn't play well. He hasn't in most games this year. That's sort of overlooked with the record. . Canales really needs to find some direction when his 3rd season hits. I think he is using a dinged up ankle to get a look at things with a different style passer and where we are. I do not think any coaching staff has been all in on Bryce Young. We have seen examples of them not being every year thus far. They don't want him playing on that ankle. NFL QBs do that. And he certainly looks like he could do what so many have done this year. What we haven't see this year, is a more aggressive passer with probably the best cast to pull it off.

That was the only justification to draft him. The tree of offense. And they drafted him for that and they got rid of Bryce 2 games in…… there was a plan. the comeback from the dead wasn’t part of it. Bryce doesn’t fit the plan.