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it's the Panthers. So Morgan probably would trade back for a conditional 8th round pick. Then they would trade back up after seeing all the players they want get drafted and give up 2 first, a rolex, and a weekend on Tepper's yacht.

he is undersized to be a base player. it's also something recently talked about in terms of Micah. I mean, just look at Micah matched up vs some of the bigger tackles in the league. Former Indianapolis Colts head coach Chuck Pagano made an appearance on The33rd Team recently, and revealed that the Arizona Cardinals may have created the blueprint as to how to beat Dallas. "Run at Micah Parsons!" said Pagano. "They came up with a blueprint and damn did they run at his a**, and they put big bodies on him...he's a smaller guy (than some defensive ends)," said Pagano. "You get a tight end and a tackle and doubling him ... I think Dallas is going to have some issues.'' In their stunning 28-16 victory over the Cowboys, Arizona ended up rushing for 222 yards on 7.4 yards per carry, with two touchdowns. James Conner did a bulk of the damage, as he alone accounted for 14 carries for 98 yards and a score, on seven yards per carry.

I think the only way we trade down and not get ripped off......is if someone oddly falls to 8 that isn't expected to fall that far (some late breaking news type thing on someone that hasn't bene talked about). And in that case, we probably need to draft that kid. Hopefully, Morgan doesn't just have it in his mind to trade down for the sake of trading down for peanuts. But it's a legit worry IMO.

Still think it's just an odd fact to follow that we drafted more players from there than any other program in the nation. #1 -South Carolina Tied for #2 - UGA, Bama, Ole Miss, UNC, Washington Carolina Schools Drafted - App State, Coastal, East Carolina, South Carolina, North Carolina, North Carolina State Best college football program in Carolina's since the Carolina Panthers arrived? The school that has put the most dudes into the NFL of the Carolina schools?

2023 - gambling suspension 2024 - PES suspension 2024 - gun incident Too small a window for all that IMO. I’d want to deal him too.

Panthers about to look like chumps. I mean that reporting basically says the Panthers are making it known they take a bad deal. Just not a horrifically bad deal. really just feels like the post child Scott Fitterer was fired and everything else stayed the same. Which in reality it largely did

Well, we could bump old threads and plenty agreed at the time…..a team with the holes we had and our trajectory going forward didn’t really need to draft a handsy man corner with a top 10 pick. It just isn’t that impactful vs other spots/aspects like investing in a pass rush or a passing game when you have neither. Jayce Horn doesn’t have the work put in to have the title of premier DB. Health is likely a reason. Maybe the reason. But to be a premier corner you have to of actually put in the work and have the resume vs the QB/WRs on Sunday. Do I think he is a top corner if healthy? Probably. Still think it was a bad pick given what we were and a bad extension given his health/availability. I’m not betting on him turning into an iron man corner because we paid him. He gets hurt week 1 and not a soul on this board will be shocked. Health is weird. Some dudes just can’t stay healthy. Some are iron men. The unexplainable is what it is of sports. I concede the Panthers got forced into a spot with that where they were forced to overpay

I still feel 100% Tepper tanked that RH deal on purpose after regretting the initial decision. It makes the most sense to have it Charlotte.

I agree with a lot of this. Lot of that front 7 D talent on this draft is pretty comparable. Top of this draft IMO is actually really weak there. It’s why I never took Jeanty and Warren off my board despite the fact they in theory should be off. I mean, we are going to draft a pass rusher in the top 10 whose career season high was 5 sacks? That doesn’t make it move. Not even a little.

yeah, but Horn also highlights why he was such a bad pick (not bad player). The cupboard was bare.....and we spent a top 10 pick on a dude who overall, didn't play a valuable enough position given all of our needs and holes (not to mention his health). as for the rest? Yeah, they have all shown various degrees of growth (well, maybe not XL yet). But I can acknowledge their growth and still say all those......questions.....are still in play that were there when we drafted them. I don't think whatever rocky road Icky or Bryce has taken so far....doesn't change the fact there were safer options. And those questions still remain for all I mentioned. Icky is still a run block leaning LT. Bryce is still a historical anomaly that hasn't silenced that. I still like the Marty approach. Go for the surest bet possible 95% of the time in the first round.

have we managed not only be the worst NFL team under Tepper or do we still own the prestigious title of worst in all of professional sports?

Sanders - DT Burch - DT/EDGE Kennard - EDGE Knight - LB Hemmingway - DT That's 5 defensive front 7 players projected around rounds 2-4. A lot of it depends on what happens w/ the first pick. But the defensive front 7 is the red circle on the team I think Morgan will over draft this time over better players. I'll make a name prediction on which one after they make their Thursday night pick. and the Panthers for whatever reason, go to the Gamecock well more than any other University I think in all of college football.

they had a top 30 visits w/ 3 of them. And then there are couple more defensive front 7 players that could make sense on top of them. and I'm firmly of the belief we have to have some long time scout that cover that team that is a heck of a salesman of his work vs others in house. We sure do hit that well pretty often vs the entire power 5.

2nd - 4th round area.

I'll bet anyone on this board a Carolina Huddle Cool Buck that the Panthers will draft someone that wore a Gamecock uniform. Never been more sure of anything.

Since Morgan has been in the front office.....every first round pick IMO has been the opposite of the Hurney magic of just flat out drafting a healthy combo of the best/safest player. It's need and hope factoring a lot. Something always there with these top picks to make you go.....well, I wonder. XL was a one hit wonder in college, Bryce Young a historical physical anomaly, Icky was a run blocking T for a team that needed a pass blocking LT, and of course we drafted a handsy corner despite the entire roster being bone dry at the time.

Campbell must know his stuff. Also has us taking Jordan Burch in round 2? Panthers trying to be sneaky since he finished his career at Oregon......but it's continuing the never ending funnel of Columbia to Charlotte with yet again another Gamecock.

I'm not saying he needs top 10 at every spot. At any spot. I'm merely saying he needs a pass catcher out of the backfield and slot/TE play with YAC ability. Been saying it since the moment drafted Bryce. my main gripe of the Panthers under Dave is lack of a vision. It's the random parts approach. Somehow be good despite little going together. We need some small ball players.

I think it will be a hard pick to trade out of and not get a bad deal. I think the better value is the middle or late in the first round.

agree w/ others on 2013 being way too low. Only 5 picks and you basically landed what were 2 of the better DTs in the league in the years to follow plus a solid LB. That's the only class I was drastically move up. Rest would be nitpicky.

Kelce, Olsen, Witten etc ain’t getting open for winning the genetic lottery either (not by NFL standards). me wanting Warren has a lot to do with the fact we got Bryce Young and the glaring needs he needs to be successful. And Dave is flat out going to have to migrate to new views on passing (which I think he can). But we will stay a bottom tier pass attack unless the weapons and calls change. I don’t care to barely compete with a great run attack and great D in today’s NFL. You got to build your O around your QB to really compete and be something on O in today’s NFL

AT contemplated retirement this offseason and missed 7 games last year. The fact he our featured pass catcher pending we don’t see some one emerge remains scary. AT should be a 3rd option at most. Offense is still a priority IMO given we have to still build even an average pass O (which we weren’t last year). Way too much “we are a defense away” talk going on.

Bryce wasn't even cracking an average of 200 yards per game in regulation to close out the year. We were 30th in passing yards on the season. He made great strides vs his rookie year. Glaring change. But that was glaring simply because of how historically bad his rookie year was. We are still a bad passing offense. 2024 was a bad passing O. I'm not buying whatever stat twisting was done to come up w/ Bryce was one of the best deep passers in the league. I still think it's simple. You want Bryce to succeed? You need pass catchers out of the backfield. You need slot/TE play. You need YAC. You need him to be what you drafted him to be. We were way below average in terms of production out of the backfield. We were way below average in terms of YAC. Dreaming up we can somehow make Bryce some chunk play passer downfield is not something worth bothering with. Trade him if you don't want build around the dude you mortgaged our future on. Keep him and play to his strengths. I don't care which one. But pick. I give them a pass going into last year of things conflicting. Now you got to pick IMO.

All TEs on the roster aren't supposed to lean toward recieving weapons. I got no issue with Tremble. But he is what he is. Tremble is there to aid w/ the run game. Panthers spent a trillion dollars all things considered on Bryce Young. Last year they got a surprise from him. Worst thing they can do is stick with square peg/round hole mindset that Bryce has to fit something no one would ever have argued he would/should be in. So I'm sticking w/ my same position. You got to greatly improve at two spots at Bryce is your QB. Middle of the field and out of the backfield. The short pass game. If you weren't interested in that.....then you should of never of drafted Bryce Young let alone given up the farm for him. And majority of the people at BOA signed up for the Bryce Young project.