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QBs drafted in the top 2 rounds after 2023 Williams Maye Daniels Dart Shough IMO, all have put shown to have a higher ceiling than Bryce in the NFL and done so in a shorter window than he has had. So basically, we only would have screwed up drafting Penix or JJ and kept all of our assets. The trade up and cost of Bryce should rightfully go down as the worst move in franchise history.

I definitely wouldn't' say he is a franchise QB. but for a rookie QB, 8 starts into his career.......you gotta like what you are seeing from him. Because regardless of competition, he is playing at high level given the circumstances (rookie that came in on a bad team) I've been impressed by both Shough and Dart

Renfrow is a one of one. Said from the jump, his route running never fit Dave's O or Bryce. He wasn't a replacement for AT, who was basically a TE for Bryce. I don't think Dave had a clue what to do w/ Renfrow and was just inserting him into an AT type role. Renfrow is great at his Renfrow routes and moving chains. Even today. We saw all camp and folks like Horn documenting it. But Bryce can't see the area of the field well Renfrow runs his routes, nor is getting the ball out on time and accurately his specialty. But that's not Dave's offense either. I still think Renfrow just missed football and wanted to prove he could comeback....and wanted one year in his backyard childhood/team. But much like so much of the Panthers, yet another round peg and square hole situation. Just no fit for what he does well (which is super specialized)

Bryce can't throw an accurate ball to tiny Renfrow. Just use the big 3. Tmac/Coker/Tremayne. I assume Moore will replace Tremayne which is pointless.

Bryce gives backup caliber production behind the highest paid OL in the NFL. Now, pay Bryce....and you start having to actually do with the roster what you claimed he would provide by drafting him (save money on offense). We can't part w/ this dude soon enough. But you can't predict the folks at BOA

Eli is super weird. Also shows the importance of not being great...but being memorable and relevant to the storytelling of an era. Eli Manning 117 wins, 117 loses, 60% completion. 0 All Pros. But beating Tom Brady and rings matter.

NFL is full of backups that can outplay Bryce. That's why the Panthers have only let you see is Jack Plummer and the washed Dalton. Building a real QB room w/ be an auto problem for Carolina/Bryce.

a lot of really small guys really need to have that punt returner mindset/ability. I still think his size (not height) is going to limit him. If XL is out (which I think he should be in terms of planning).....we need more speed than Horn. Not write off Horn or even dissing him. But Moore, XL, Renfrow, etc need to go and we need speed in their place. We got the bigs in Tmac/Coker/Tremayne.

He got 2 problems. Dudes with the stats that also have rings and obviously, he is an a hole

Talk about a window where we really could have used that JayZ 7 year model coming into play. We should really be close about now …..and in a weak divsion and NFC.

Patrick Willis essentially had the same career. To me they are 1a and 1b from their era. *3 game differece

The super processor has been late his entire career in the NFL.. Balls way too often don’t go when they should (late) or he misses the window and turns it into a scramble. Off topic but what I also hate about some of the ALL22 twitter type stuff. Too many folks pausing clips to make whatever argument they want. You can pause the same play, screen shot seconds apart and sell 2 different narratives on the still shots.

https://www.nfl.com/news/15-modern-era-players-announced-as-finalists-for-hall-of-fame-class-of-2026 The Modern-Era Players, along with their positions, years and teams are: Willie Anderson, Tackle – 1996-2007 Cincinnati Bengals, 2008 Baltimore Ravens Drew Brees, Quarterback – 2001-05 San Diego Chargers, 2006-2020 New Orleans Saints Jahri Evans, Guard – 2006-2016 New Orleans Saints, 2017 Green Bay Packers Larry Fitzgerald, Wide Receiver – 2004-2020 Arizona Cardinals Frank Gore, Running Back – 2005-2014 San Francisco 49ers, 2015-17 Indianapolis Colts, 2018 Miami Dolphins, 2019 Buffalo Bills, 2020 New York Jets Torry Holt, Wide Receiver – 1999-2008 St. Louis Rams, 2009 Jacksonville Jaguars Luke Kuechly, Linebacker – 2012-19 Carolina Panthers Eli Manning, Quarterback – 2004-2019 New York Giants Terrell Suggs, Outside Linebacker/Defensive End – 2003-2018 Baltimore Ravens, 2019 Arizona Cardinals, 2019 Kansas City Chiefs Adam Vinatieri, Kicker – 1996-2005 New England Patriots, 2006-2019 Indianapolis Colts Reggie Wayne, Wide Receiver – 2001-2014 Indianapolis Colts Kevin Williams, Defensive Tackle –2003-2013 Minnesota Vikings, 2014 Seattle Seahawks, 2015 New Orleans Saints Jason Witten, Tight End – 2003-2017, 2019 Dallas Cowboys, 2020 Las Vegas Raiders Darren Woodson, Safety – 1992-2003 Dallas Cowboys Marshal Yanda, Guard/Tackle – 2007-2019 Baltimore Ravens

Hill is also built for contact, he just happens to be short. Sort the Kyler vs Bryce scenario Horn short and small. Thats gonna impact ability down the sideline IMO and all sorts of areas

Horn really is probably too small to be your speed. He would have to get more open than NFL open on deep plays if they ever tried it

Minimum 800 pass attempts by a QB is going to weed out the randos you are likely right about

That’s actually designed for the biggest meltdown possible around here. Full game day thread the next day

Oh i keep forgetting Sat. NVM

What should be the most huddle centric ending possible? we lose to Tampa. Game ends early and we all switch over to watch Shough lead them on a….GWD

Putting the comical Urban Meyers debacle aside…..Trevor only has one losing season as a starter and he was comically injured that year and really shouldn’t of been on the field. still a disappointment but thats a totally different realm than Bryce’s version of disappointment. Trevor been a solid starter in 3 of his seasons Trevor is a bust given expectations but is a clear NFL caliber starting QB. Just middle tier. He has a lot to work with for a good OC. Great OCs would struggle with Bryce. Green newb OC like Canales got zero shot

Jags also have a lab built created player at QB for the good OC to use. Outside of the brain, Trevor checks every box an OC could dream of

Bryce Young is the best deep passer in the NFL

Hadn’t even noticed. Much like Shough, a bit late season surge it looks like

You feed Rico the rock. On repeat. Thats how you win. I expect the Bucs to have a different gameplan this week than last after Tampa was called out for gameplanning for the 2024 Panthers last time. Baker got the skill talent to hurt us pretty good if they put it on him and he plays good. Got to keep the ball away from both QBs with Rico

2005 era Ken Lucas and Chris Gamble IMO is easily #1. Lucas eventually fell of a cliff after a few years and I think some forget early Lucas….but this duo ain’t better than that duo at their peak