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Bryce would have bailed the pocket and gone on a 3 yard scramble. He is tops of the league in killing plays

that stat also doesn’t reflect….trying to make something out of nothing. It’s gobbly goo. And clearly contains very normal Bryce Young passes…..simply because of the coverage and ball placement. Which is why he ends up with a lot of them. So a decently covered 5 yard route he opts to throw can log as ….a “big time throw” the entire point, OP and the X post everything initially done is misrepresenting PFF in info to attempt to sell Bryce as a player that anyone who watches him knows he isn’t He is not a deep ball passer. Thats not his game. He barely throws deep and is managed heavily when he does. It is what it is. Not sure about this need to pretend he is a deep ball passer.

Lot of Bryce deep ball that got him this “rating” near the end of the season almost felt like trick plays…..both Rams ones for sure because of the magic Canales has to work up for Bryce. only QB throwing downfield at a lower rate this season is Goff. One starting QB.

Just to clarify bad info. he is not 8th most in attempts. There is only 1 starting QB in the NFL he throws deep attempts at a higher rate than. 8th in big time throws is not a numbers that represents deep shot attempts. Big time throws is a made up PFF stat that includes things like tight coverage on a 5 yard route to the sideline

He isn’t. This was debunked last year and is being re-pimped. Bryce Young only throws deep balls at a higher rate than ONE starting QB in the entire NFL. One. He doesn’t actually throw deep. When he is throwing his very rare deep ball….Canales is having him doing it under very favorable conditions. And doing such in recent weeks…..is where he once again earns this “rating”. Actual good deep ball throwers? They throw deep. They ain’t last in attempts . And they aren’t management into only being allowed to do in the most advantageous scenarios possible (you actually do THAT with dudes that struggle….ie Bryce Young

He will be bad vs Seattle. Bad could be no offense and no turnovers or turnovers because he is asked to make more than 2-3 throws. he will have likely 180 or so yards vs to close things out vs Bucs. Bryce is actually pretty consistent. I mean, we know what he is and isn’t. It’s just this weird window where many pretend it’s unknown

Is that really true anymore for QBs or WRs? With the way offense is today, the window seem to of shrunk. Do WRs or QBs really not show themselves earlier now than the prior era? how many QBs or WRs stunk in the recent era their first 2 years with opportunity….and proved folks wrong later.

Not just Dalton. But the only real young arm they would let be seen the past 2 years was a really a bad Jack Plummer. Who was super weak even for that tier Can’t convince me how weak they made the atmosphere around Young hasn’t been intentional.

Bryce is better than Tim. But the defense/argument for, is the same argument. Tim actually stronger at the intangible strengths. Bryce stronger at the weaknesses. Neither had the tools to produce the amount of offense needed in today’s NFL

The Golden Calf of Bristol had leadership coming out his ears. All the good guy stuff as well. It’s all nice. So much of the Bryce defense is just recycled Skip Bayless The Golden Calf of Bristol talk. Oh he sucks huh. Doesn’t produce offense. Did you see that one throw in the 4th quarter! He is Mr. Clutch. The Skip argument is essentially the Bryce defender argument. Down to the overstating and over his impact.

He has a very nice family!!!! What more do you need to know.

That hasn’t been the formula. Formula is clear. Leaning on the run. Ask Bryce to make 2-3 throws (which means cracking 200 is rare)……and hope the D can capitalize on a mistake or 2. That’s how this team has found their way into upsets. San Fran is the nice late season reminder you can ask Bryce to lead the O. @ Atlanta each year is just the oddities of sports showing

42 starts. We have seen it 2 times.

The post you were responding to was that of me calling out a trash statement that people that are critical of purely one select Panther employee are “sick” lol…..despite folks being critical of a slew of Panthers and that’s all “good fandom” I guess

Just go to the OG Shough thread leading up to the Saints game….where half my posts in that thread are shitting on a Bryce defender because he shits on our great backfield all in the name of trying to make the low ceiling QB look better….and absurdly pimps the Saints trash run game.

Only way we have a shot is if Seattle’s offense lays an egg and makes enough mistakes to let it be a game. Sort of the repeating model needed for us. *which Sam Darnold is back to being Sam Darnold. He always emerges down the stretch

I can go cherry pick a random team that has little do with anything and make the counter to your argument. No point. You can’t make an argument the pass attack with Bryce isn’t weak and erratic. Stats and eye test prove both. All 3 years. Merry Christmas. Off to church, then some family eating paired with the proper amount of adult beverages as to not make the wife mad, and then Santa Claus work. Until another day. I hope everyone that wants them gets their official Bryce Young pajamas for Christmas (XS).

It’s 2025, not 2000. You can play or you can’t given the state of offense in today’s NFL. It’s all figured out pretty quickly who people are and aren’t. everyone basically channeling their inner Matt Rhule on Bryce Young. I’m telling you, year 4 or 5 he is going to show you! Year 7 would be the worst case scenario. Everyone knows about that magic 7th season.

In theory, you can argue anything. We have a weak and erratic pass attack. It just is what it is. The eye don’t lie. Well it lies once every season. In Atlanta lol

Sure, you have to make up for it elsewhere… #2 D paired with the #2 rush attack (paired with an essentially cheat short yardage play). We dumped our resources into having a really good passing attack presently that in theory should be making up for the areas that would take an hit in the build. Which is another reason so much is Bryce centric. What in theory should be the biggest strength is the weakest link.

The only reason that weak pass attack is okay….is the dominant performance on the ground the QB is also working in. Can’t just gloss over that….which made them a top 10 O in yards and scoring. we are bottom 3rd in the NFL. Again.

Hurt was a piece of dominant ground attack and that yielded results. If Hurts didn’t have that component to offset what he lacks as a passer, Hurts would be where all the other Bama QBs end up…..not playing.

He takes shots downfield more than…..1 starter in the NFL. And Canales is clearly managing him and his throws. Is that progress? Is that confidence? or is it that the Rams and other teams don’t expect a QB that doesn’t throw downfield to take shots….and we have taken advantage of those moments. Which is going to yield a better success rate. Hell those 2 Rams throws almost felt like trick plays

If he can get set….yes, Bryce can throw it hail marys often involve QBs creating additional distance on throws while biding time and when the time comes to get it off….you might not have a good base and setup to get it off. I do not think there is belief he can do that under bad conditions…. and it’s likely why 2 different NFL coaches haven’t declined. Get him going backwards and not set? Scrambling and not set? Cam could get it off flat footed and all arm.

Jon Kasay was a Carolina folk hero until he kicked the ball out of bounds in the Super Bowl. Delhomme wasn’t getting the credit in real time like QBs of today. it’s why I also bring up the NE kicker….he was getting all the shine and praise in the world in that era for winning NE games. Different era of football. A formula and view was different. It’s wasn’t a QB centric league then and nor were people trying to make it all about the QB at every moment