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His completion percentage was, but his total yardage was not, and that was with some atrocious WR play at times (though some major balling out by Thielen at times for sure). But he also had some really bad throws. His mechanics are far from perfect and NEED to improve. Receivers are no longer an excuse, either. I'm not saying he is a top 10 QB, just that in a lot of categories he was between average and just inside the top 10 in that stretch if we do things like considering his rushing as part of his production. My issue with him is we need to see within game and between game consistency. We saw some evidence of that possibility though.

This just isn't true for that time span, unless you exclude his rushing. Which would be perfectly in line with Panthers fans to do lol... But in that time span he was some place between 8-15 in most metrics and that included some good to great performances eye test wise. His ~230 yards per game was pretty good, and he was on pace for approx 28-30 TDs in a season and ~3900 total yards, with only 11 ints. And that was with the insane drops he had to deal with, not like some perfect performance by his receivers Anyway as to the backup quality whatever, if your backup QB is scrambling all over the field and delivering 20 yard completions every couple drives (barring the fourth quarter, anyway) - he's not just a backup, and probably gets a start some place... But he did play inconsistently at times, which is a major concern

I don't think the stat sheet is why Bryce was good in the AZ game. I don't think it's some incredible performance either, but it was a good game from a QB. He was much weaker in the 2nd half, but he moved the ball pretty well, and was effective in the red zone. He used his legs very well too. Philly was not a great game for him though. Lots of bad throws, but a few great ones (including the drop, lol) I'd say that since returning from benching he was on the low end of a top 10 QB. He needs to continue to improve and show consistency within and between games.

I mean maybe the way the roster looked coming in to 2003 - 2003 had a lot of players emerge in such big ways but didn't look spectacular at the start, lol Nobody thought that receiving corps was going to be particularly great, but a lot of us thought our great coaching hires (lol) would carry us through to challenging for the division...

It's weird to think that WR may be a major strength of this team by end of year. Of course, when you use a top 10 draft pick a year after a first rounder, that IS a big deal....

Eh, I don't think anyone can reasonably accuse me of wanting Bryce gone anymore and I wanted to develop a back up QB, but the total roster is more important. Just the way our holes have been patched it didn't work out well. Part of my desire is because we've got a QB guru has HC... But next year's QB class is supposed to be so, so much better, so that'll be a time to snag a backup.

1 for 5 on 50+ in 2021 and 2022. No 50+ yard tries in 2023, but made all 5 in 2024 including a 59 yarder. Promising for sure

Yards aren't really a good measure alone. He was one of the best QBs in the league in that stretch in most categories but yardage, heh. He definitely was not Burrows but he was pretty good. Averaged 210 yards passing, 20 yards rushing a game, plus 2 TDs a game. I'd like to see him continue to improve, but projected over a season those games were just under 4k combined yards (~3600 passing), 35 TDs, 13 TOs. Good for a starter, though not superstar-esque. His raw passing numbers would have been top 15ish, but he proved himself rushing so I don't think that should be ignored. For me personally I want to see the high level of play over a season. And he still sometimes has several series that are just total head scratchers - I'd like to avoid that, heh. May be play calling there too.

Yup. Gotta support the young QBs. A defense does help with that but the best thing to do is build a strong OL, and get them a young receiver or three to grow with. It does feel like there's more intelligent team building going on now... But some of that is just how Bryce is nowhere near the player Cam was, heh.

Given the holes the team had, it wasn't really easy to bring in a decent development QB. They're putting a young QB in a tremendous position, so if Bryce crashes and burns this year... Well we'll be in a good position offensive wise to bring in a new one.

Honestly might be the best outcome for him. He will get offers and will get to pick where to go.

I've been avoiding the Cam comparison because it risks derailing this thread completely... But yes. It is reminiscent of his situation. And just like with Cam, he could very well have been a great backup / teammate but some of his rhetoric made teams question that.

The issue is teams are clearly sending a message they don't believe he can be a good backup. I guess we'll see if that holds as his talent far out paces the rest of the draft board.

That's true. But it's true whether Sanders is available or not, lol

If you don't think he's a starter for you, that means he's a backup. So then, you have to decide what his potential ceiling is, and then evaluate how well you think he'd do as a backup. Unfortunately, he doesn't come off as a backup and I think the sad reality is his father's media circus turns people off from that.