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Fair for sure. Though I'm pretty sure I would make it all worse We could also have a team that no one wants to play for, with no hope of ever getting better. I don't think we're in 2000-2010 Browns/Lions territory yet. Now we are the worst team for the 2020s. We're half way through this decade. Will the Panthers turn it around? Maybe. Will they continue to suck because Tepper is poison to winning? Maybe? Back to Moton, he's been a very good and consistent RT for a LONG time. Yes, he's had a few injuries, but I don't think that the Panthers wanted to leave a bunch of uncertainty at the position. Regardless our opinion on the FO staff, they see Moton daily. They have a MUCH better picture of his knees and how much longer he can play at a high level than we can from where we are.

You know how air chair football managers are around here. They all know better. Just no one in the NFL has picked up on their incredible acumen yet.

Very nice! Congrats!

For me, I'm pretty excited. I always am. I want to see a more competitive team that last year's squad. I want to see Bryce continue to play well. I want to see our running game put the hurt on teams. I want to see better play from the defense. Now, am I expecting a Superb Owl in the future? No for 2025. We still have a LOT of weak areas, and we just don't know if last half of season Bryce is the real Bryce? Or was that just a flat in the pan? If the team sucks and is unwatchable, that's fine. It sucks, but I'm not going to cry about it. If we're better, then I'm all aboard the excited to see fun football again.

Hendrickson is going to be part of this negotiation. No team is going to trade valuable assets for him without already having a contract agreement in place. I don't think the Panthers have the ammo outside of draft capital. And I hope they don't. We do need to get better, but we also need to develop our young players.

It's funny that some people think Perkins is going to change things. He was fun to watch in the XFL. Great athlete, but there's a rather substantial difference between Spring and Fall football. He's going to play a lot against Pittsburg, hope he's a quick study. Look, if Perkins became the next great rags to riches QB story, please serve me up the crow. I'll eat all of it. But remember what happened with the last XFL MVP QB we had...

This is Bryce's year to put up or shutup. That's just the reality. Either he proves himself a high level starting NFL QB or we trade him and move on. What I saw (as an idiot with a keyboard) to finish out the season was a young QB who was starting to get it. He made plays with his feet and with his arm. He threw some insane dimes! Now, the production wasn't eye popping from a numbers perspective, but the dude made plays. Its up to Bryce and Dave Canales to make it all work. I hope it does! I want to see my Panthers succeed! Conversely, if Bryce stinks it up, let's work on drafting an upgrade. But, right now in May, I'm full of Hopium and will continue to choose that line of thinking for now. I HOPE that all the moves we made this off season lead to a better record in 2025!

Thank you for all the release metaphors! It's helped make my morning But no...just eww..

I agree. Father Time is undefeated. Linebacker is a physical position, and Shaq's injuries are piling up. Sometimes you have to just know your time to hang'em up. I don't think anyone should denigrate Shaq's leadership or his history with the team, but that's all in the past. If it's week 4 and we're down all our LBs, sure, bring him in. But for camp and the season, we need youth. Jewell is the elder statesman here, but even he's had his fair share of injuries. So at this point, I'd rather live with youth and mistakes while they learn instead of older vets who will get hurt more frequently.

I wouldn't be surprised given how the NFL swings, but I'm not getting my hopes up for that. Regardless of win totals, I want to see the following in 2025: 1. Continued development and improvement of Bryce and the offense. This is coaching and player-related. 2. An improvement in the defense from historic bad to mediocre. Anything beyond that is great. Even at mediocre, we could have pulled off a few more wins last year. 3. The development of a strong core of leaders and a team identity emerge. Wins? I expect 6-8, some improvement, but we're not quite there yet. Injuries are the greatest equalizer in the NFL, and we lacked depth across the board last year. Maybe we're healthier this year? Or our depth shows well when injury strikes. I don't know. Now look, we could go on a tear and win 10+ and the Division. I wouldn't be sad at all there, but I also don't see it as being likely. But it would be cool!

20 years or so here... God, I am getting old, this sucks lol

Yeah, my family did the Charlotte Area Book Crawl last week, and we got to see a LOT of the city. It's changed! Some good, some bad, but at the end of the day, there's a lot going on in town.

Fox Media has really been killing it, right? Lots of great and smart choices like that to inspire confidence from the shareholders!

I think it's just doing due diligence. Maybe they decide to take him at 8? Maybe they trade back to 15 and pick him? Maybe it's just a smoke screen so people think we're interested and either feel the need trade up for him or it lets one of our defensive player we desire slide?? I love the intrigue of the draft!

This is why these guys get paid the big bucks. It's their job to assess not only the raw evaluation of a player, but also how well they fit the scheme and team. Often we hear the phrase "dropped of a team's board" in relation to a medical or personal evaluation. I do enjoy the draft season so we can see all the hot takes from national media heads down to the loudmouth in the next cubicle over who is a Jets fan. I've taught with several Jets fans...and I don't feel out of line with my judgement

Funny thing, didn't Gettleman talk about quarters and dimes??? Just a funny memory of bygone era of Panthers FAFO....(Free Agency/Front Office, RIGHT???) Carter is the best edge in the draft in the pre-draft process. I think that's the general consensus. But we're not an edge away. We need talent at every position aside from QB (for now, we'll see), and MAYBE RB. But the rest of the team needs young players hungry to take a vet's job. I'd rather have more shots at the dart board with the hope that we can get some meaningful depth and maybe starters out of this.

This is why you have to be careful, just everyone. Green needs to be careful of who he surrounds himself with. All it takes is even the hint of suspicion to open up an investigation against him. I'm not saying all NFL players need to be choir boys who got to bed by 9PM with a glass of milk, but he needs to have a strong support network that is watching out for him. That doesn't mean covering things up for him, but guiding him to better decision making for the future. An NFL team that wants to drop a major investment into the young man also has to do it's research. I'd talk to every ex GF he's had. I'd bring a behavioral psychologist as well to see how they react and read body language. Lots of guys can clean up their image in short order, but if there's an underlying issue, there are signs even that can't hide. His talent is undeniable. Dude could be an excellent edge defender for many teams in the NFL. But if he goes to jail, it's hard to play. If he becomes a pariah, it's hard to pay him. Look, billionaires aren't clean people, they are just rich enough to keep their secrets safe. Any team considering drafting Mike Green is going to have to do a LOT of research and investigation into someone with that kind of background, innocent or guilty. After all, you don't want to invest a high pick in Green, only to lose him and the value to the team.

Our offseason mantra needs to be "the draft is a crap shoot!" Right??? Now Carter is very interesting. Some talking heads consider him the best, safest pick in the draft because his skills are translatable. His floor is a high end pass rusher, ceiling perennial DPOY. He played through injury at Penn State and was a force in his final game. Dude has all the tools. Who is graded out better? Well...there you have wide variety of opinions. The biggest question would be: do the Panthers have a high enough grade for him? If he drops, I think you really have to think hard about it (depending on your board). What's the dawg count in him??? Or do you take the best edge you can at 8 and let the rest fall where it may? The draft is always surprising and full of "no duh" moments. But if Carter falls to four, I think NE is going to have a LOT of calls.

Well, Nat is a LOT more plugged in that most of us So it looks like we're going to have balance the idea of a stupid high "tools" guy versus a more proven player. Drafting for traits over production... Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

I saw Dane Brugler from the Athletic ask someone there and since the 40 was hand timed, the three he trusted most were in the 4.53-4.57 (4.55) range for him. So take that for what it's worth. Honestly, were I a GM, I'd want to see his GPS figures to see how well he changes directions and his actual game speed when running routers and running away from people. Tet's game is size and short area movement, not long speed. Would it be helpful? Yes. Can he rush the passer? No.

I will say if he makes this trade/contract - it's going to define his term at GM/Boss Boy of Football. It could be a great move for him and the Panthers. Or it could be a massive overpay for a 2nd tier WR who can't carry the load or value of a $30 million a year contract. I'm not an NFL insider, I have no idea, I'm just spouting my thoughts and ideas.

I feel better grabbing a good run stuffing DT and an interior pressure guy. Adding one of the best safeties on the market was a good grab as well. Keeping Horn and Jackson together could be good. Now we just need to find pass rushers from the edge. So I am feeling better on paper, but at the end of the day, it's just paper. It depends on how well they coaches can coach...

Didn't you know, the season is already over! Because we didn't win the super bowl in the first couple hours of tampering, it's time to fire everyone and look for 2026 QBs! (Typical huddle over reaction)

This is some decent perspective. Milton would have been great for passing downs, but he's not a full time player... In 4D chess terms, maybe the Panthers leaked the $20 figure (when Milton was wanting $24+) to see who else would pay more and get it out of their hands? Man, that's some painful mental gymnastics. But good on Milton for getting the bag. This is a strong front 7 draft so let's work on developing young talent.

Yep, you hear that the DT position is one of the deepest in years. We could land a really good player with a mid round pick. I'll take that!