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No he didn't and he never did. Bryce is who Clausen thought he was. Clausen just threw the balls Bryce won't because he was also dumber with nothing to lose without that first overall paycheck. Clausen had the worst arm I have ever seen and tiny hands to boot. Bryce is just your typical NFL bust level talent without the hunger or need to earn a roster spot...yet

Same crap different year. If Bryce isn't playing at his worst, which is actually difficult due to how bad that was, those people will keep hoping. His improvement got him to 'should be replaced soon' backup level but if you keep looking at where he came from then there is some kind of sad hope he isn't at his ceiling already. I doubt his crew will really turn on him but just say shucks when the team finally dumps his arse. Waiting on the blind to see is a lot like waiting on Bryce to turn into a decent starter.

True but it's built as a rushing first team. What is maxed out is trying to hide Bryce's issues behind that fact. Address that or it's not going to matter. I don't think the team has caught up to that fact yet. The fact Dalton hasn't been IRed yet proves that to me. IR Dalton (functionally useless and that's not from the broken thumb) and figure out who is the new #2 who should absolutely be seeing reps sooner than later.

He can have a couple of decent games in a season so that should make him a captain soon... Maybe wait until til players do something consistently good on the field before pumping these guys up with unearned PR? Like hold the sandwich names and such until the production and not draft value support it?

Kind of a secondary issue. They need to figure out how to get more out of the run game or nothing else is going to open up either. That means dealing with a stacked box. Might as well just send XL deep to try and take a defender partially with him. It's probably the best use of XL at this point. Doesn't matter because they probably see themselves at .500 as not too bad and after Atlanta it should look more like the Bills game. I would bet on more of the same for a few more weeks. 'Just got to figure out how to get ridiculous games out of Rico' is probably on a whiteboard as we discuss.

To be fair, Murray is much more mentally limited than physically. His height stinks but he is gifted physically outside of that. His problems are between the ears. His only positive assets are his physical gifts or he would be a dumber Bryce.

They should trade him regardless in the offseason. Go get a vet body and just move on. Try and draft a QB but don't force it, they are already in QB purgatory so play the long game. If he isn't worth his 5th year option than he shouldn't be around anymore. Im not sure he will make some teams final roster, just depends where he lands. If there is heavy competition I wouldn't bet on Bryce. It's going to be interesting once he isn't treated like he is now.

I couldn't even take a half this week with the Saints on the other side.

It's been hard to watch him play all year. I didn't even tune in today. I mm tired of watching that level of football but it sounds like somebody could still sit through it at this point

This game should come with a helmet and a mouth gaurd for watching it

Cam is one of the only QBs that eat hits like that

Don't fall for GB falling on it's face and asleep at the wheel. This team is run first and mistake second

Yeah they picked wrong but their tank was unique. They had a fire sale, made a HC who is a very good DC tank, got caught and lost a pick (1st? Not sure im hazel and lazy). Thry also stacked talent for a time but started purging again, some to make room for Tua and some to chaos. Our tank is just doing poorly. It hurts but it still is going on

Absolutely but he also couldn't finish before either. It was always a team built to fail but at a playoff level. Wildcard appearance type team and that was at the high

Pretty much but we still have the weaker one but the crap the Fins owner has done is pretty bad but weirdly competent in flashes. None yet seen for Dave

They actually came out well except their owner chose the wrong QB and kept doubling down.

Maybe another year at the rate he is going but I woukd be surprised if it's longer at this point. They are going to have to deal with Tua and start over but their HC seems almost checked out at times. They have had so much talent leave in the last few years Im wondering who they lost in house that made better personnel choices. They were great at talent acquisitions a few years ago but seem to have taken some steps backwards. I don't follow them closely.

The Dolphins are the example of not tieing a team to an overrated QB who can't carry a team. They were so stacked and watched most of their talent go elsewhere so they could pay a mediocre and hurt starting QB too much money. They looked so good beating up bad teams at their peak and couldn't hang with any of the other playoff bound teams. I wonder if getting tossed aside will wake up their HC or if he continues to struggle elsewhere after his early success. It would be funny if we weren't doing a weaker and dumber version of their build.

Zavala was really bad his first year but I think he can still flash that unfortunately. Coaching? IDK. Inconvenience seems to be common. Moton should just have played the year out to see what's what or they should have replaced him, whixh is a tall order for a team with so much else needing done. I just thought the reworked deal was dumb. Get cap but create another issue later. Just eat it and move on. I do think they were trying to create space for someone else but that's also a huge negative for me because the 'one player away mentality' has always been a failure that I can remember. Corbett was a known health issue, a waste of roster space really. BC has had a fractured ankle and a torn bicep so he isn't a huge shocker either, unlucky or injury prone at this point? Add in Moton and that unit was always suspect. Having both high priced OGs dealing with injuries 1 year removed from their big deals just seems like the chefs kiss to that entire build. So 2 known injury issues with starters, a backup that's probably injury prone now, Mays and then nobodies. I don't think I can call that decent depth, especially considering the 2 known starter issues coming into the year.

We gave a guy with knee issues a 2 year extension and had blown heavily in free agency on OGs with a known health issue at center. Unfortunately it's looking more worst case in those possibilities. Zavala is more worst case from the drafting side is all.

It's a body but not much else. Not going to matter with Corbett at center. All the oline is the best position hype sure has dissipated

Just blame everyone and you will be right I guess. So freaking crazy

So Hooker was active, Andy was 'hurt' and yet they didn't even play him when it was way over while Andy was dieing out there? WTF I agree. What a cluster fug.

I don't know. It's not like they had another QB active for that game right? So he toughed it out? That's freaking stupid but believable. He'll at this time there is still doubt Andy is hurt and not just awful. I just don't know, it's all unverified. He should have been pulled but they still had the other QBs on the PS at that time right? That can't be right.

CYA approach. Indy had a QB with availability issues and NY really did it the way I hope to see here.