Ball4life

5 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Florio is a drama queen and I doubt anything substantial actually comes from it.

This. Hes the only one pushing it .

6 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

@Ball4lifeI don't get it? What did I say so wrong? Are you on Rudders nuts and love him or something? Man that guy is terrible. Sorry but it's true.

They’re both terrible, Cam isn’t a thousand times better than anyone. 

1 hour ago, Captain Morgan said:

does anybody know if there is a new Falcons message board?

Who is there fan that checks in here on game weeks....would like to know how there fans feel heading into this weekend, especially the injury report

https://falcons.boards.net/

Have to register to read though. 

11 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I have no idea why Atlanta trade Ridley. Just a stupid move for them.

 

He's going to be a top 5 WR with Trevor Lawrence imo.

Ridley the guy that stopped playing for them after 5 games because of mental illness than got suspended the whole year the year after? 

10 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Atlanta has some great skill players, but how are they in the trenches? The OL and run defense was pretty bad last year. They do have the 2nd best coaching staff IMO outside of us.

Falcons had the #5 OL in league least year by PFF. Panthers ranked #11.

Awful, prayers to the family.

11 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

Saints are the only real threat. Bucs are going to implode and the Falcons roster will win 5 games max. If the Saints get something going with Carr they could be in the 8-9 win range.

Falcons won 7 games last year with a worse roster, no way they win 5 games max and if Carr is good Saints could be a 9-10 win team. Saints roster is old though. 

Would be suprised if Houston went with Levis or Richardson at 2 but we’ll see. If they’re wary on Stroud should be Will Anderson. 

13 hours ago, Donald LaFell said:

It’s probably already been said but Wilson is much “bigger” than Young in many ways, it’s not an accurate comparison. His wingspan and hand size are off the charts relative to his height. 

This. Wilson’s hands are absolutely massive for his size. 

12 minutes ago, frankw said:

That would be a serious desperation move but I think we'd be fine either way. Eventually the other teams in this division are going to improve. But I don't see the odds of any young QB doing particularly well with the Falcons.

Regardless with how much has been said about this years QB class many folks here need the others to be mid or busts. If not cue the weekly comparisons.

Top 3 run game, top 5 OL to go along with Pitts, London and whoever else Atlanta drafts and you don’t see any young QB doing well there?

16 minutes ago, backINblack28 said:

went big on D in free agency is more like went from 30th to 24th IMO which again just doesn't help a league average best case offense much at all. they're not going to be playing trace mcsorley, kyle trask, or PJ walker twice this time either

You said 20th ranked defense in a different post and falcons offense was medicore last year with a bunch of rookies….don’t see how their is no chance they improve. 

17 minutes ago, backINblack28 said:

top 5 OL paired with 30th defensive DVOA.  Bad QB play is a toss up to continue as Mariota was apparently doing something to keep his job most of the season over Ridder. Those 3 skill players have to achieve something more impressive than they have both individually and together for me to care about their last names.  London fumbled several games in crunch time and has way below average depth behind him.  Pitts has been fine but he's not going to give our DC nightmares.  Idc what a RB did when no one on that offensive threatened anything / now people will actively try to stop him. In my mind I'm giving them a L 2022 CAR @ ATL and if you flip their 3 point win with us beating the browns and them if not for the refs, then they have 6 wins and we have 9 and I think it's a more accurate indicator of where those respective rosters stand.  The defensive upgrades could pull them closer to top 20 in defensive DVOA which scares me zero in the face of their offense best case threatening league average.

 

The stretch below is outright objectively gross. They basically lost to us and then scraped to <=3 point wins against garbage and beat mostly Gabbert/Kyle Trask in the finale.

 

Sunday Oct. 23		at Cincinnati BengalsPaycor Stadium, Cincinnati, OH	1:00pm ETFOX	L 35-17
Sunday Oct. 30		Carolina PanthersMercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA	1:00pm ETFOX	W 37-34(OT)
Sunday Nov. 6		Los Angeles ChargersMercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA	1:00pm ETFOX	L 20-17
Thursday Nov. 10		at Carolina PanthersBank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC	8:15pm ETPrime Video	L 25-15
Sunday Nov. 20		Chicago BearsMercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA	1:00pm ETFOX	W 27-24
Sunday Nov. 27		at Washington CommandersFedExField, Landover, MD	1:00pm ETFOX	L 19-13
Sunday Dec. 4		Pittsburgh SteelersMercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA	1:00pm ETCBS	L 19-16
Sunday Dec. 11		BYE
Sunday Dec. 18		at New Orleans SaintsCaesars Superdome, New Orleans, LA	1:00pm ETFOX	L 21-18
Saturday Dec. 24		at Baltimore RavensM&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore, MD	1:00pm ETFOX	L 17-9
Sunday Jan. 1		Arizona CardinalsMercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA	1:00pm ETFOX	W 20-19
Sunday Jan. 8		Tampa Bay BuccaneersMercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA	1:00pm ETFOX	W 30-17

I know the Falcons defense was awful which is why they went big in free agency on defense. Ridder was a rookie who they didn’t want to throw in the fire right away while Mariota already knew their offense. London looked much better with Ridder than Mariota. He had 1400+ yard pace with Ridder but small sample. Pitts was top 5 pick and had an historical rookie year that was clearly head back by Mariota this year plus he was injured. No way do DC’s not worry about him. 

Falcons and Panthers both had 7 wins with similar point differential so you can do that with multiple games for both teams. Falcons blew many close games they could of won with the 2nd youngest roster in the league. They literally had rookie QB, RB, WR starting at the end of the year (and Pitts injured) with a poor defense and we’re still competitive in most games. 

37 minutes ago, backINblack28 said:

their roster is aggressively mediocre on D. I still see nothing threatening from a skill position group (or OL) that makes me think a toss up at young QB will be able to do much

Their OL was top 5 last year (they just made Lindstrom the highest paid G in the NFL) and they have Pitts, London and Allgeier plus the draft this year. They had the 15th best scoring offense last year with bad qb play from Mariota. 

Nm

Just now, TheBigKat said:

If you don’t have QB1 then none of that matters

Based on this logic they didn’t last year and still weren’t bottom 5 and had the same record as the Panthers. Also Falcons QB1 has only played 4 career games. 

1 hour ago, TheBigKat said:

No way in hell this team finishes top 5. 

Rams

Bucs

Falcons

Colts

Packers (minus Rodgers) 

 

are easily and handedly the worst 5 teams next year

Then you have Tier 2 garbage

Texans

Cardinals

Titans (no Henry / Tannehill)

Broncos

Ravens (if they lose Lamar)

How did Falcons get worse when they lost nobody and added 4+ starters on defense. I bet money those are the 5 worst teams, way too early to tell. 

28 minutes ago, NAS said:

Panthers. CJ Stroud (hopefully)

Saints: Derek Carr
Bucs: Baker Mayfield
Falcons: Taylor Heinicke
 

I like our chances to win the division even with a rookie QB. Our Defense will need to be great but CJ will lead this team to the playoffs.

Falcons named Ridder the starter not Heinicke. They will go defense at #8 too not Levis or Richardson who aren’t even day 1 guys. 

10 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Falcons going after Lamar.

 

If that doesn't happen they can get AR in the draft.

I seriously doubt falcons would take AR. 

9 hours ago, csx said:

So no, I wouldn't do it and there's no reason why the Bears would either as they don't have his successor. There would need to be extreme bad blood going on for this to even be feasible. Nobody is going to offer enough for him for them to bite.

Bears have the #1 pick so they could draft Young or Stroud as the successor but I agree no team is giving up a high 1st or what it would take to trade for Fields. 

1 hour ago, rayzor said:

Wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't worry me much. They have no defense. They only have $56mil in cap space so they won't have much money to get help there. The picks they would have to forfeit wouldn't help them upgrade anywhere else either.

They also don't have a very good coaching staff. Slightly better than we were with Rhule.

He's not much as a passer, but he's a lethal runner. It would be like the Mike vick years, except Vick was an anomaly in those days. We weren't used to running QBs. Now we are. 

Ravens couldn't win with Jackson and they have a better D and better coaching. 

I'll put this defensive coaching staff with this D against any offense ATL could come up with Lamar.

Actually, if I had to choose an NFCS team to trade for Jackson, it would be the falcons. He'd be scarier with the saints or the bucs. 

Falcons have never had a defense. Even in 2016 superbowl year they had the 26th ranked defense. Mainly because they have no pass rush and I mean worst in the league literally ….they did just hire Nielson from the Saints though who was the DL guy there and had the Saints ranked #2 in sacks since 2017 so maybe he can somehow generate a pass rush. 

I like Smith a lot better than Rhule though. Falcons were supposed to be worst team in the league with all that dead cap space on the books bc of Ryan and Julio and he got them 7 wins with young roster and lost plenty of close games at the end. (Like early Cam years) 

28 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Yet his QB rating puts him between Derek Carr and Mac Jones. Two QBs with supposed great technique and better teams around them. And neither had 1100+ rushing. Which you seem to believe doesn’t matter. Again

The Derek Carr who just got cut and Mac Jones who didn’t have a good year. And never said it didn’t matter… rushing QBs who struggle passing aren’t durable nor winning super bowls or even sniffing them..

16 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Nothing anyone says would equate being worth it. You conveniently ignore what doesn’t suit your narrative. It’s a much better idea to overpay a 32 year old who got sent home from his last team or take a QB at 9 who can’t handle college defenses. Good Luck

Or maybe it’s because he shown to be a poor passer (with poor technique) which is the most important part of the position. Holds on to the ball incredibly long which shows he struggles reading defenses and then the OL gets all the blame. 
 

Never said those were great options either. 

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

In his 2nd year, with a pitiful team. And they were almost identical. One played in a dome most of year. One in crazy CHI weather. 
 

And where does the 1000 more yards rushing factor in? Do they not count anymore. Sure did when Cam was here. ATL was 3rd in rushing with or without Mariota. CHI was 1st in rushing, 24th if Fields runs were removed. 
 
 

Nothing equates that to being worth a top 10 pick. Would be foolish if Atlanta or Carolina gave up their 1st pick for him. 

3 hours ago, Toomers said:

You wouldn’t have to worry. If he was available for 9, Fields would be in ATL the next day for 8. You think the Falcons would pass that up? 

Yes. Fields has worse passing stats than Mariota who falcons benched….definitely isn’t worth a top 10 pick. 

Not even worth a 1st.