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Weren’t we favored vs the Jets?

I feel like with his height most hits are high hits, right?

It's hard to tell without knowing what the original routes were for both TMac and XL. Young does 100% get pulled down while throwing the ball though.

That helps my case even more lol. So he got stuck in 3rd and long a lot due to short smaller plays and HAD to throw it deeper on 3rd down and STILL posted his lowest YPA of his career. I keep referring to YPA because it's the cumulative average vs focusing on certain downs. It is interesting that Baker was good big on downs because we are actually pretty decent on 4th downs this year. Maybe that's a little niche Canales is figuring out? Again Geno's offense wasn't Canales' offense. He was the QB coach. The OC (who again was not Canales) did throw it down field with DK and Lockett and rightfully so. Now check out Geno without those weapons and maybe it will help you see that the deep ball is a WR stat more than anything. Most every coach in the league needs a playmaker at QB. It's what they are so expensive and teams mortgage their futures trying to get one.

Exactly. Just because you are part of the staff of a Head Coach doesn't make you an immediate replica of that coach once you branch out on your own.

Again his one year calling plays happened to be Baker's lowest YPA not counting his split year hear. That tells me he was less aggressive with a QB who likes to be aggressive. We have that and almost 2 full years of Bryce Ball here in Carolina. He will take some deeps shots as most offenses have to in order to keep the defense honest. Quick passes and hopeful YAC. I'll give you one guess to which year Rachaad White had the most receptions as TB's RB? Remember the first thing he wanted to do here is focus on how quickly he wanted to get the ball out. That's part of his recipe to help QBs and help his OL. Run the ball, quick passes to hopefully players in space, sprinkle in a little PA. So yeah you can look at some coaches he learned under and speculate, but I am telling you what he literally is doing and has done as a play caller. Offenses that were and are 100% his baby.

DC was only full an OC one year and it was with the Bucs on Baker's "bounce back year." That year Baker posted his lowest average yards per attempt outside the the year he played here/LAR at 7.1. This is with Evans and Godwin as his WRs too. When DC left the very next year he went from 7.1 to 7.9. DC does test the deep ball periodically but so far his offenses rely heavily on quick pass first reads. He does try to run to setup the pass, but he is also too quick to abandon the run. He is honestly still very green as a play caller much less one that is also a HC.

I don’t think scheme is an issue. We use nickel more than 3-4 and have featured 4 DL plenty of times. Gone are the days of a primary base defense IMO.

After next year. So after 2026. Yeah he isn’t financially able to be moved this year.

Looks like we have an out in Wharton's contract after next year. Cap Hit is $19 million dead cap is $4.8.

Yeah no doubt we overpaid on him and Moehrig. I'm just saying scheme isn't really the issue.

He is definitely overpaid and has been a disappointment. Has had trouble staying healthy honesty, but I'm not sure our scheme is an issue. We run nickel more than anything like most teams. We line with with 4 DL sometimes and 3 sometimes. If he gets healthy and starts playing like he did in KC we will roll with a front that is best for him more times than not IMO.

If you are going to line him up against Olave, who is a great route runner, you have to let him press him and get him off his route. Playing him on an island against Olave with 5-8 yards space in front of him is not using him to the best of his abilities IMO and it gives Olave a nice advantage.

I could see us making a trade for Thibs from NYG. A 2nd plus 4th and maybe some late round swaps? NYG isn't going to want to pay him with Burns making his money and they just drafter Carter in the top 5. Thibs is due a contract after this 2026 year.

We are .500 right now and hot and cold which is a sign of a young team. We are in the playoff race because our division is pretty bad. If these teams get better (Bucs healthy and the Saints aren't as far off as people think) it gets a lot tougher. Even if we get in the playoffs we are a ways away from being competitive there yet IMO. Of course a lot can change in one offseason and we are trending in the right direction.