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A quarter or 2 drives of 6 plays or more, whichever happens deeper into the game.

As a general comment, paying big money for players who may not be worth it/at that level isn't a good strategy either.

Gotcha. Agreed that Thomas is a passable blocker, even pretty effective at times.

Go back and watch the tape again. He got in the way on occasion, but dude was subpar at best. Remember how (in)effective he was lowering the shoulder for yards? Same concept, and it was the reason guys like Hartsock and Manhertz had roster spots. Effort was never the issue, just effectiveness, and that's fine. He was a modern TE that was more of a receiver and he was damn good at that.

Yup. Love Greg but that is a low, low bar.

For sure - you don't make it this far at that size without it. Just saying that Sproles was a little moreso.

I grew up with Sproles and played against him for years - Sproles was notably more solid in the lower body than this guy. Combine weight was also 187 vs Vaughn's 179, which is not insignificant at their height.

God, it's like paying for cable all over again... taking me back to 2014 when we cut that off in the first place.

For reference, Denver's defense was 3rd, 25th, 10th, and 14th in pts against the 4 years prior to his arrival (3 Vic Fangio years) and running a base 3-4 since 2015E. Evero had plenty to work with, and did good work with it. Carolina was 21st, 18th, 31st, and 29th during that same period, and team personnel is not built for 3-4 base (though specialty packages may be more similar). It may take a year or two to really see big gains.

I don't disagree at all with the point that Rhule is a clown but Howell played in 1 game last year and only because Wentz and Heinicke got hurt/sucked. It's not like he started a season and got a ton of reps/time.

Holy good god it is - Prescott Oaks. Street names like Emmitt Pass, Witten Dr, Dak Ave... horrifying. https://www.kwsanantonio.com/neighborhoods/homes-for-sale-in-prescott-oaks

Looks like he's Miles away.

Exactly. We often take a day off and run up to Chiefs TC with our boys. Lots of stuff to do up there and the kids enjoy it.

They did, though it was still $250. Ended in June.

No, but some fan expectations are too high, even ludicrous at times. Let the year play out as it may, then they'll refine and have a strong direction.

Absolutely, but I don't see Burns being willing to go anywhere near that low. Not at all relevant.

Exactly. Value distribution and maximization, potentially (if not likely) getting even more than you had before. Also possibly less but that's the nature of risk/reward, but the profile on that trade was pretty good.

He knew what he was doing by posting that picture. Never hurts to nudge his name back into the conversation, if only for a few minutes.

Tolbert actually fumbled twice in the Super Bowl, and he was a roster albatross from 2015 on. Almost got TD killed on that onside kick recovery vs Seattle by not hitting anyone and contacted literally no one three different times on Ginn's TD run vs the Cardinals. His 2015 legacy is what it is.

It would also help if alternate viewpoints were met with things other than 'are you even a fan/you must be miserable/why are you here if you don't support hte team' etc. Plenty of snark all around.

It is entirely possible to discuss a player's perceived value relative to makret without automatically leaping to the conclusion that someone is also condoning "having zero pass rush". The stupid that needs to be fixed in this thread, ones like it, and in a lot of discussions outside of here isn't what you seem to think it is.

Zero people have said that Burns should take less or should not get as much as he can. That is an entirely separate thing from people discussing the potential value of his skillset relative to the league. You have lost the plot a bit here.