WarPanthers89

Dave and Bryce were thinking “they will never see it coming!!”

No but we should have kept both of them. People complaining about what he got paid can’t say much now because it’s absolutely worth it to get 15 sacks which we could desperately use, especially when you compare it to some of the free agents we have signed to try to replace that production (none of them have come close and we are wasting good money on them)

Yeah you are correct. I fugged up adding looking at total yards on the site I was using. The debate still remains with overall points scored and efficiently of the offense and defense that year vs now year 2 vs that dysfunctional season with a interim head coach.

That’s his own fault. He benched Bryce in year 1 and made the decision to keep Dalton as the only competition for him. Just like in game, he’s slow to make adjustments when it matters.

This was 2022-2023 season bro…..you act like Dave C hasn’t had the opportunity to build this team the last two seasons, and spend very heavy in the offseason on free agents to build the team. It’s hard to defend the numbers after he has coached 2 full seasons at this point. Wilks didn’t even need his own coaching staff to turn the team around and got almost the same results in the win column and obviously performed better all around on offense and he was a defensive coach.

Who would you rather have in their prime: PJ Walker or Bryce Young? Lol it’s funny but not at the same time. I’ll never forget the Hail Mary to DJ against the Falcons.

Embarrassing. We are overhyping Dave simply because we have a shot at the division. I’m going to be as thrilled as anyone if we win it, but Dave is not giving me a lot of confidence in his future ability. To be an “offensive” coach and to muster up 56 yards passing in a playoff type game for us is horrific and shows his lack of game planning and ability to adjust. How are you going to let Rhule and Wilks have that many more passing yards for the season???

7 wins with a chance to win the division at the end of the season against Tampa. Stats for the team who started 1-4 under Rhule, and then continues under Wilks with that disaster of a coaching staff: -Points per game: 20.4 vs 19.1 This season -Total offensive yards: 5,206 vs 4,601 This season -Passing yards: 4,908 vs 3,307 This season -Rushing yards: 2,085 vs 1,859 This season -Defensive points per game: 22 vs 22.5 This season -Defensive yards allowed: 350 vs 331 this season (slight improvement but remember Rhule coached part of the year and the coaching staff changed significantly throughout the season after Wilks took over) I’m happy that we are playing for something, but let’s not fool ourselves that the only reason we have a shot is because our division is trash. It’s the end of year 2 for Dave and he isn’t putting up inspiring numbers compared to the famous Matt Rhule/Steve Wilks team.

We hired Dave because he was a “QB Guru” and a young offensive mastermind after only one season calling plays at the pro level. Along of new coaches only get 2 seasons to prove themselves and we are wrapping up this season still not cracking top 15 in offense even though he’s completely hands off with the defense. I’ve said it 80 times since yesterday but I’ll say it again…..who here can tell me the identity of our team on offense? We WANT to be a running team but never commit. The only real identity our team has is the check down and 0-5 yard passing game. As a head coach with the division on the line to only muster up 56 passing yards, you should hold your head in shame. You can’t get more creative than that? You really can’t make more adjustments than 56 passing yards in today’s NFL??

For the record I will never root for the team to lose for draft picks. Of course we should all be rooting for the division crown and to be in the playoffs, if not you shouldn’t be a fan in my opinion. With that being said, I am not as sold as you are about our coach being an up and comer. The guy is 100 percent hands off with the defense and has some extremely questionable play calls and adjustments after two full years on the job (some coaches only ever get two years). To be an offensive coach and only muster 56 yards passing is pathetic. Not in a drive….or a quarter…..we are taking the entire game with the division title on the line. I don’t even really know what our offensive identity is after two full seasons of him calling plays. I know we WANT to be a running team, but never fully commit to anything other than the check down/ 2-4 yard passing game.

Progressing into this when it’s a game we have to win:

Exactly. You know after 3 years what you have. All teams can really tell after a couple seasons max if you have the “it factor” or not. Bryce just had the biggest game of his career and put up less than 60 yards to go along with a terrible interception.

I’ve said it multiple times in other threads already and I’ll say it again. Jimmy Clausens worst game he had 7/13 completions for 36 yards and 1 INT. Bryce was not far off from that today in the biggest game of his career. Clausen wasn’t in his third year either…he was a rookie with a coach (John Fox), who didn’t even try, just out of spite because he was a lame duck coach.

I agree! Our defense will plays absolutely perfect football and allow us to win every game scoring 10 points with less than 60 yards passing on offense. The NFL could not have planned it better. Fans around the world will love to see a team that is a master of the dink and dunk game with 2 yard passes.

They don’t have to do anything to keep us out. We Sh*t the bed every time we have an opportunity to take the division.

I get what you mean in a sense but Joe Burrow is a fantastic example of someone who does not have any support. He has 1 star WR and one good #2 WR and that’s it…..but he still shows he’s a franchise guy. We have invested very very very heavy in protecting Bryce and trying to give him weapons and he has shown the ability to be a game manager/Dink and dunk specialist. By the end of year 3 you should be able to tell if you have a franchise QB or not.

My Visions of the future were close but I could not see that Dave Canales was drugged before the start of the game. That was not supposed to happen.

I posted this in another thread, but to put into perspective how bad today was, Jimmy Clausens worst game as a pro was 7/13 completions, 36 yards and 1 int. Bryce had more attempts and had less than 20 more yards that the worst game of Jimmys Career. This is with John Fox not even attempting to win the game. This performance today is on Bryce and Dave 100000000000%

No one wanted DC. He was a middle of the road coordinator who only had 1 year of experience.

Very close! Sad thing is….As bad as Jimmy was, his absolute worst game ever was 7/13 passes competed, 36 yards, 1 INT.

Jesus take the wheel. This is with a “offensive” coach who is 100 percent hands off with the defense. The only thing we are consistently good at is dink and dunk BS

I agree. Both can be true….its not like our game plan is lighting the league on fire. We still have no offensive identity. We try to be a running team but never fully commit. The only thing we excel at is the check down and 4 yard pass

Our playbook is horrific. Does anyone even know what our real offensive identity is? It’s like we try to be a running team but never dedicate ourselves to it. The only thing I can say for certain is that we excel at being a check down dink and dunk team.