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He had a down year last season….no doubt about that, but I don’t think anyone would consider a 25 year old DE with 46 sacks one of the most overrated players in panther history. You’re being dramatic…of course this is always the best place to be dramatic, so have at it.

Very true. I keep going back to CMC and DJ Moore in my head. I know that they are completely different players but we see how bad things can get when we get rid of proven talent. We have such a lack of high end talent, and it’s extremely hard to replace. Those 2nd and 3rd round picks from CMC mean nothing if you can’t even find a decent backup with it

Listen….I’ve been quiet on Burns and definitely do not feel like he should be top 5 paid DE’s, but he's very talented and had a down year last year. It’s a massive hole from talent and leadership perspective if he’s gone. We are a better team with him being on the roster….and if we can’t Lock up our young core during Young’s rookie contract we are missing out. Brown and Lucy should be priority 1A and 1B, but no way should we allow Burns to walk. He must be tagged, especially with the cap exploding

BPA but if that’s the case and it ends up not being on offense, we have to get Bryce some weapons in FA. That part is not an option, as we have to properly evaluate the kid. He was in a situation last year that was by far the worsts in the league for any QB, much less a rookie.

Very good point. Honestly I wouldn’t mind spending big on him or someone else like Hollywood Brown so we could be free to draft BPA WR or O line with picks 2-4. At this point we have to spend some major capital on offense but I agree with you we need to do a proper re build. Part of that does need to include spending some money on a younger proven WR to pair with Young so that we can properly evaluate him. WR’s like we had last year he does not stand a chance

Who cares. I’d do it tomorrow. After watching that dog poo offense the last few years we have to do something….i couldn’t even watch them as a die hard fan. It was miserable.

Trade straight up and call it a day.

lol yeah holding Mahomes in the Super Bowl to 19 points in regulation is an accomplishment and should be enough to win you the game. In today’s NFl, holding anyone to 19 points should be good enough, much less one of the best to ever play the game. Up until the final 2 minutes they held them to 16 points, and don’t get me started on how many opportunities the 49ers gave the chiefs to score in the 2nd half due to horrific play calling and abandoning the run game in the 3rd quarter.

Very true and excellent point. Holding Mahomes to 19 is an accomplishment. It’s not his fault they couldn’t run the ball at all in Q3

Article: When asked about defensive coordinator Steve Wilks returning for 2025, 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan didn’t provide a clear, unequivocal, unconditional response. And that might have happened for a reason. As explained by Tim Kawakami of TheAthletic.com, Wilks could be in jeopardy — if the 49ers believe they can find an upgrade. Kawakami notes that the 49ers gave up, on average, 149 rushing yards in their three postseason games. “That’s not the way Shanahan and Lynch want things to go in the biggest games,” Kawakami writes. “That’s not how the 49ers are built to play. They’re supposed to win games with physicality, yet they got outrushed in all three of their playoff games.” Again, it all comes down to who they could get. Perhaps, as Kawakami points out, Wilks will get another year and, if it doesn’t work in New York in 2024, Robert Saleh could be available to return for 2025. Regardless, when Shanahan is asked whether Wilks will be back next year and the first thing out of his mouth isn’t “hell yes” but "“I haven’t talked to anybody yet,” that’s cause for paying attention to what happens in the coming days. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/could-steve-wilks-be-in-danger-of-being-replaced-by-the-49ers

Give me these please: ILB - Frankie Luvu (UFA) Snap Percentage (93.84) - PFF Grade 78.5 LOLB - Brian Burns (UFA) Snap Percentage (77.16) - PFF Grade 74.1 (WHAT HES WORTH ONLY, IF NOT….TAG AND TRADE) CB - Shaquill Griffin (UFA) Snap Percentage (7.30) - PFF Grade 67.0 (CHEAP CONTRACT ONLY) WR- Ihmir Smith-Marsette (RFA) Snap Percentage (10.70) - PFF Grade 63.6 (CHEAP CONTRACT ONLY) NB - Troy Hill (UFA) Snap Percentage (46.82) - PFF Grade 62.4 (CHEAP CONTRACT ONLY) ROLB - Yetur Gross-Matos (UFA) Snap Percentage (44.17) - PFF Grade 65.4 (CHEAP CONTRACT ONLY)

Multiple starters are questionable from a health perspective and some even from a performance perspective. We have zero depth that is proven….so yeah we need all the help we can get. We have two guys I really trust at this point when healthy which is Corbett and Moton. We definitely need upgrades and depth along with a brand new WR group.

Cmc is the perfect example of why you never trade away proven playmakers for picks unless it’s a 1st round draft pick, and only if you have a proven franchise QB. Trent Williams, CMC, DJ Moore etc. I can go on and on. You don’t trade proven playmakers for draft picks unless it’s a 1st round pick minimum and only if you are secure at QB

People say this all the time but either way, he’s not getting that type of deal. The cap is an illusion and he’s not a player you would ever have to worry about not playing hard enough to earn the money. He was underpaid every year he has been with us. This is a dictionary picture perfect example player that you pay. He’s the best team leader we have other than Brown

lol CMC/DJ is a great example of why you don’t let good players go for picks. He was one of the very few people on the team who brought the energy, played his ass off, and never quit even though we were the worst team in the league. He’s the perfect example of the type of player that you do not let leave.

Not a single person thinks Bryce was the better pick at this point. People may have thought he was walking into a worse situation, but looking at the season, he had better everything for the 2023-2024 season. No questions CJ performed on an other level than Bryce, but you cannot question that he had better coaching, better offensive game planning, better adjustments, better O line performance, better WR’s, better TE, and a better running game. I get your point on CJ, but everyone on this board has beat this narrative into the ground and we all agree about CJ vs Young at this point, but you cannot be serious in saying Young was in a bette position after watching last season…..we were literally the worst team in the league for a QB to be in.

Who on this board do you feel that you are proving a point to? I think everyone here overwhelmingly agrees that we wish we had Stroud at this point, based on year 1. The only thing I’ll ask of you, is to explain to me how the 2023-2024 Texans offense and coaching staff was a “way worse” situation than what Bryce Young had to deal with…. You are beyond wrong on this statement. Young had a worse situation on every single level and there is no question about that.

No question

You make good points but we easily could have earned that number 2 pick as well if it wasn’t for a few surprise wins that Wilks pulled out. Combine that with trading away our only weapon at WR, having one of the worst offensive schemes in the league which caused our first year head coach to be fired mid season, a blocking scheme which caused Young to be tied for most sacks in team history, and our prized FA big sign “starting RB” being demoted for the season, you can easily see how Houston ended up being a much better situation to be in for a rookie QB. Young didn’t play well, but you cannot deny that the situation we put him in was a compete and utter disaster in every phase around him. I cannot think of a single positive situation around Young on our offense around him last year……not one.

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Our hire looks better and better by the day. I know we are all on a wait and see approach, as it has to translate on the field, but I honestly cannot think of a better person that was available to hire in order to help to salvage Young.

I believe the Huddle hated on the hiring of Morgan and our new coach because it wasn’t a big name that they dreamed of, but I have a feeling that if they are left alone, they can build something special and make us a competitive team again. As a matter of fact, I don’t know of a single coach (that was actually available) that would be a better pick to develop Young. Morgan and Canalas are young and hungry and you can tell they will bring the energy that our team has been lacking for years. I know we are all numb to anyone involved with overseeing our team until we see wins, but if you are being logical, this seems like a great pairing we have made, along wit Brandt Tillis

Love the hire and I hope it translates into the football field. I will say that I get a much better feeling about him than Rhule or Frank. He seems young, hungry, and someone who will bring the energy to the team. It’s a huge bonus that we keep our defensive staff together as well.

Canalas at 2. He was the best option to get the best out of Young. Bonus because we kept our defensive staff in place.

Minimum three. To me this is Teppers mindset: Three years gets Rhule and Frank off the payroll, as well as the end of Young’s rookie wage scale (not counting the 5th year option.) This will show enough patience to give them more than enough time to build a contending team, and we will know of Young is a proven starter in the league and can move on (of course us fans will make this call by the end of this upcoming season, but I bet in Teppers eyes it’s the end of year 4 based on what we gave up). By the end of year 3 it’s either extension time or cleaning house time for Young and the coach/GM