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They just announced on mad dogg radio that it was a done deal

We will hopefully know something over the next few days, but the lack of news on us being close to a deal really worries me. Our team has lost what few playmakers or X factors that we had, and he is one of the 3-4 on the team. The man is the definition of a dawg and is someone who truly can line up in many positions to confuse an offense. He is a key factor in our defense and will be missed tremendously if we lose him. NFL free agency officially begins March 13 at 4 p.m. ET, and teams can start negotiating with players -- and agreeing to terms on new deals -- on March 11. How do you feel? Do you think we re sign him, or is this is for his time in Carolina? 2023 stats: 125 tackles 59 ast 5.5 sacks

That would make no sense with Dalton being under contract. Spend the money elsewhere

Even if we are rebuilding this wouldn’t be a bad idea. You need a young proven WR if you are going to properly evaluate Young and give him a chance. Allen, Tua, Burrow, Herbert etc all were surrounded with receiving talent and we have the absolute worst in the league. Im Not saying we mortgage the farm on it, but the idea in itself should not be shunned in such a harsh manner if we are able to get them for a solid cost. People won’t blink an eye to draft a WR high and watch them Bust (TMJ) but to trade for a proven playmaker drives people crazy. As long as we are investing in Receiving talent and O line I’m all for it if we are doing it in a smart manner.

Plenty did the first time he left the team. He had that weird season where he only had 2.5 sacks and a lot of people were saying he wasn’t worth the money and played lazy whenever he finally left us. You are right that they weren’t sane, but many were saying that.

Does not make sense but I’m not a cap expert. Thomas should absolutely go though. Maybe this is a post June cut

I get he needs to improve in areas but he’s 25 years old crew…the only person in our history to have more sacks in the first 5 seasons was prime Peppers who had 6 more sacks. This is with Burns having a down rookie season and last year, along with us constantly playing from behind. I’m not saying he’s a hall of fame player at this point in his career, but you guys are being over the top calling him a part time player and horrific against the run. The rest of the league disagrees with you. Tons of people ripped Peppers when he left and said he wasn’t good, same with CMC, and DJ Moore. It would be insane to not tag Burns and let him walk for nothing.

He played the 4th most snaps in the league last season, gave up 1 sack, and had a green ratting every year he has been in the league. Just because you have an option on it does not make it fact. He was an iron man for us last season when everyone around him was switching out from game to game. He was actually rated almost 6 points higher last season than the previous season when he only gave up 6 penalties and 3 snaps (4 penalties and 1 sack last season) Did getting rid of CMC and DJ teach you nothing? You watched the line last season and think Motons performance warrants us to go in another direction or look for an improvement on that type of performance? Especially on a team with such little talent, and into a handful of players (Moton being one) that is an above average NFL player?

CJ is an unrestricted free agent

He’s solid, but he’s an easy cap savings and his play could be duplicated for cheaper. Many times he was able to make up for being out of position due to his crazy speed, which took a hit after his injury. He’s not as explosive but still solid, we will just be using that money on more impactful players like Luvu or a top free agent Guard who will prob get around 14 mill a season

Makes no sense to move on from your above average, proven, RELIABLE, tackle, when your line was a complete mess last year. He has been our only consistent on the line over the last 5+ years. If we haven’t learned already from CMC and DJ Moore, moving on from your proven playmakers can have a very negative effect. An extension makes perfect sense from a tent, team building, and cap perspective.

I wonder why we wait until the last minute after we have already held off negotiating? Seems like this decision one way or the other was already made.

People flipping out about giving 25 year old Burns at a premium position 28 mill a year when a 31 year old (at the start of the season) Evans is getting 27 million a year.

We need a younger playmaker with speed. That’s what our offense is going to be built around, running game, quick release and make them pay with play action when available (the be special 3-5 times a game type play). We need speed in the worst way, pairing Evans with a 33 year old Thielen is not going to help us as much as someone with an extremely quick release

I can’t disagree with this plan all

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Great point, and I would not be disappointed by any means if we go best WR available with our 2nd round pick, but with that we would still need to sign one of the top available free agent WR’s to fill the number one role and they need to have speed, especially with the game plan to have such a quick release. We all know rookie WR’s can be slow to develop on the first year, so having a vet who can fill the main role will still be critical. Just as important is having depth at G/C who is good enough to start. We all see what happened with injuries last year, Bryce had zero chance with the revolving door in the middle of the line.

I tried to in the draft with our round 2 pick which will be like a late 1st. Our base starters are pretty much set. We need someone for key depth who could possibly push Brady C for playing time while being a swing key depth piece at G/C if needed. It Doesn’t make much sense to pay for a starter in free agency being that we have 3 out of the 5 starters on big contracts. We have one player we have paid at WR (Adam T) which is why it makes the most sense to me go go this route in FA. We can’t afford to miss on our 2nd round pick at WR to depend on being a starter. We need a proven guy with speed so we can properly evaluate Bryce. For all the issues Hollywood Brown and Ridley have, you know what you are getting with them and they have proven production and can stretch the field, along with solid depth in Mooney or Samuel to go along with Thielen/Mingo

We must get depth on our O line and MUST upgrade our WR group to give Bryce a chance in hell, and to properly evaluate the kid. Here is my realistic plan on what I would do on offense to correct the poo show we all had to witness next year. First: new scheme, new dream. Let’s all take a moment of silence for Franks horrific playbook to be thrown into the depths of hell. Second: Free agency. I don’t believe we will spend our money on the line for more starters, as we already have three big contracts on the line out of 5. This will be a spot we address in the draft. We may get a depth piece for cheaper, but don’t expect big money to be spent here. I believe we will spend our money on WR targets. One big name (as big as you can get for a free agent pool) AND one tier 2 FA WR. We only have money spent on Thielen currently and need another vet for Bryce who has SPEED. My Plan for Tier 1 SPEED: Marquis Brown OR Calvin Ridley Tier 2: Darnel Mooney OR Curtis Samuel Third: Draft. We spend our 2nd round pick on best available C/G (I pray Jackson Powers were to drop) This allows the rookie to be our key depth piece and potential starter to replace our center or guard if needed due to performance issues. 3rd round pick should be on best available Wr, TE, or O line. Remainder of draft should be BPA. This will leave us with a depth chart like this: QB: Bryce Young/Andy Dalton WR1: Hollywood Brown OR Calvin Ridley WR2: Mingo/Mooney Or Samuel Slot/WR3: Adam Thielen TE: Hurst/Tremble/Possible rookie 3rd round pick RB: Chubba/Miles Sanders LT: Icky LG: Brady C (with 2nd round rookie pushing for playing time or to start/be key swing depth) Center: Bozeman (with 2nd round rookie being swing depth) RG: Corbett RT: Moton WHAT WOULD YOUR PLAN BE?

BREAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not a ton of substance in the 13 min video but I did find it interesting he mentioned the number 1 priority on defense is finding pass rush outside of Burns. He mentioned if we trade Burns we have an even more massive hole, but did bring up that we didn’t have a single game where the offense from the opposite team having to come from behind to score points. This absolutely made the stats for Burns drop some, and it is crazy to think about. Not once was Burns able to get after the opposite team in the 4th quarter when they had to throw to win, because we were playing from behind in all 17 games, not to mention not having ANYONE opposite of Burns.

Could be a problem on a team with as many weapons as ATL