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I would have liked him back in that deal, but he has a 1st round salary to pay still so not exactly cheap backup.

Resident VT fan checking in. Farley shouldn't drop to the second but if he got past NO at 28, id start ringing some phones based on massive upside. Doubt I would actually get a deal done as 39 to 29 isn't worth it (unless you have him a top 15 player, and I don't). I'd love for him to make it to 39, but don't see it. He would be one hell of a steal there. I don't think he's in the same class as many of the former VT CBs that were very good, but he has a lot of size on all of them, had games and stretches of dominance. But, he sometimes was inexplicably out of position for big plays, and lots of health issues. And VT doesn't have a good medical recovery record, lots of broken down guys once they get to the NFL. He fits fitterer build/type from what Seattle targeted. That said the "cheaper" version of Farley is Israel Makuamu. He's a guy I bet we target.

8. Penei Sewell OT Oregon 39. Alijah Vera-Tucker OG USC 73. Quinn Meinerz OC Wisconsin-Whitewater 113. Tylan Wallace WR Oklahoma State 151. Jonathan Marshall DT Arkansas 193. Darius Stills DT West Virginia 222. Israel Mukuamu S South South Carolina

My feeling too. Oddity is fox doesn't exactly fit in that idea as he's a bit undersized for the 5 tech odd as a big edge. Perryman fits well inside with Shaq. They have a gaggle of OLB edge types now too. But they don't have the line for it. If this is the way they really wanted to go this way, kerr would have been fine at a 5 tech. Also they would need to really focus on 5 tech and a NT imo. If brown switches to NT, that looks like a waste of his talent vs going after one of the 3 or 4 NT in this draft.

And 34 and 3/4 arms. Likely a guy that will not be a sleeper and a guy people go look up after he is taken way earlier than draftniks' boards predict. He was on watch list in 2019 preseasons too so he's been known for a while.

My ideal is trading back with baltimore. Our #8 and 3rd rounder for their 28th and Orlando Brown. Value of Brown around 20th to 17th overall. Only if Fields, Sewell, and Pitts are not there. They can go get Slater or Darrisaw to replace Brown on the cheap and get an extra pick. Would extend Brown and Moton. Build the bookends 1st.

I'm a Darrisaw stan, and I'm not 100% ready to hand him LT day one here. He might be the guy, but feel a lot better putting Moton at LT to start camp and see if Darrisaw unseats him. VT didn't run a pro offense and I have issues gauging his readiness as a pass blocker and hold up on the blind side. Now as a run blocker, he's ready, just a little more urgency to flowing thru to the 2nd and 3rd level from what I've seen would do him good. Though that could also be scheme/coaching that has him ensure his lane is cleared before he goes to the next level. Another option would be chase Orlando Brown. That make for a nice pair with Moton. Now 8 straight up for Brown is a non starter but we have the highest overall to give in a pick package if the ravens send picks with brown. They can go get the cheaper RT replacement of slater for Brown if they wish.

From PFN: 8. Kyle Pitts TE Florida 39. Terrace Marshall Jr. WR LSU 73. Jackson Carman OT Clemson 113. Brady Christensen OT BYU 151. Marvin Wilson DT Florida State 193. Trevon Grimes WR Florida 222. Israel Mukuamu S South Carolina 1st, no FB on the field: if you go big, Donald comes in with Pitts. No where near realistic, but hey if they have a crap board sort and let me get load up at the end of the draft (last 4 picks all will be gone well before I got them), I'm gonna do it. Honestly, if we can nab Pitts and a Robby replacement, it sets up Sam/ or the next qb well (Moore, CMC, Pitts, and 1 more good wr is a QB dream). Pitts, Donald and CMC for short yardage plays? Pick your mismatch: play for a pass and let CMC eat you up or play run and let the TE boys eat you up. Honestly Marshall is a draft crush of mine and was by far the best value on the board regardless of fit IMO. I think OT or falling DB could be the target if Pitts is the pick at 8. It fell in this mock that no great OT left, a good G (but I knew that I could grab good G or 2 later) and I went WR over CB which I get is debatable. It's a lot for the 4th option in 2021, but as a redzone threat in 2022 (to pair with Pitts and A Donald inside the 5) and 3rd guy in 2022 (hell of #3 after Moore and Pitts), I went this route. I like Carman overall think he is solid as a RT prospect and wouldn't be shocked to see him long gone in rnd 2. Now Christensen could be gone in 2 or there in the 3rd (deep OT pool this year), but a no brainer in rnd 4. I could see him at RT or LG here in this mock with Carman on board. Would have to figure out Carman/Christensen out a little. Overall like these 2 guys and give depth in 2021 and they have a clear path to play in 2022. One moment for a prospect that is undervalued: Mukuamu. College CB by need, NFL safety is his home IMO. Was good for 2 years, and didn't make the jump like Horn this year and played in his shadow. Banged up in 2020 and a true junior i believe. Still a really good mix of tape and measurible. Tall long and good athlete with a knack for the ball. He isn't a burner like Horn but more than enough for his size and as a zone CB or FS. I see Javon Holland well within most folks top 100, and imo Mukuamu should be right there after him due to his blend of hand, size, and speed. More top 100-150 not 200+ as some places have him. Both guys fit a hybrid CB/FS roll. He's not one you ask to go shadow moore or hill ( that's what Holland brings) but he would go up against the big bodied slot and outside guys or TE (not what I would want Holland doing).

Wait a sec. Tepper is happy on the process here? Sorry but they had till may 5th to exercise the option on Darnold. Enough to see how the draft goes to see if your really need to commit 18 million more to Darnold or if a better option opens up at 8 (fields). Taking it early locks them in to the 18million, even if they move some into 2021. Little worried if that's a sound business decision and he approves of the process of exercising the option pre draft.

So coaches hitched wagon to teddy last year (woops) and have got hitched to donald not just this year but next (atleast on $). The interesting thing on the extension: they had till after this year's draft to decide on that. If "their guy" at qb was there at 8, they would not have had to pick up year 5 at 18+ million and roll into 2022 with the anointed one. Darnold will get his millions now, he is set (year 5 = payday) outside of football now. The top2 coaches in on this need this to work out. They already fired 1 blank, 2nd would be an issue moving forward. Does he want a fat 2nd contract, sure but dude is set. I still think the 2nd is a bit more than Darnold is worth. Rosen went for a 2nd but had a lot of cheap control left. And people knew he was out of the starting gig because of Murray. It wasn't like Sam was holding off the #2 pick in Wilson. They also had a backup with 1 cheap year left, not 3. Fitterer paid a lot for 1 cheap year of Darnold, and already paid good money for 1 more year before the draft where you could get your guy (fields or lance). I don't think Darnold will be terrible but the process here is questionable. That's mybissue. Think they overpaid what the market was/would become. Think they hedged the bets on the 5th year option without knowing how the draft unfolded. Could both work out for the team still, yeah sure, but not the greatest process here.

Per the athletic, it's a 18.9 million option for 2022.

Boondoggled by the Jets.

I mean I wouldn't mind fromm as a FA but I dont think a 4th is worth it. He likely never sees a 2nd contract in Buffalo. So they may take about anything just to get something back. Throw out a conditional 6th I could buy. A 4th or 5th straight up? No

Before the sf trade, maybe 20% chance. After the lance, wilson, and fields pro days, 40%. With Pitts showing out at his pro day, it's 50% now. Crazy to think we could end up with a true top LT. imo he is better than the top OT the last 2 drafts at OT. If he is there, I'm pretty sure I don't wait a minute to listen to calls. Go up and announce it. The 2 guys I would take ahead of him for sure wont be there. Honestly think he is #3 overall guy in a 4 stud draft ( TL, ZW, Pitts, and Sewell). So to get that at 8, sign me up.

LOVE THIS DRAFT Thomas is a sneaky pick there. Lots of upside. Jackson I think goes way before the mock guys peg him. Lots of experience and measured in great. Remember this guy held off wirfs at LT. He's a favorite of mine this cycle.

Pains me to say that's likely true. Pitts is damn close to that megatron freak but at TE. He also has production to match eye popping athletic ability. And yeah Pitts is another few levels above Arnold. I mean I like what Arnold is going to bring as a pass catcher, but even in that regards, Pitts is the better receiver. He's grown on me as our pick if Sewell and the top 4 QBs are gone. I'm hoping atl and miami pass on him. . Brady would definitely use him. We saw the TE still used in NO with Brady. In 2018, the #3 guy in receptions was 38 year old TE Ben Watson. In 17, they had Hill and no one at the position to use. When NO has one they use one, see Cook in 2019 and even 2020. Brady is from the school of Payton so it's not like they never use a TE. Peyton has never had a top TE since Jimmy Graham. And oh he was dominant in 2011-2014. Let's be honest, Brady had 3 top WR at LSU: Chase, Jefferson, and Marshal. Maybe all 1st rounders. Hell the RB was also a 1st rounder so yeah the weekend link at TE didn't get the ball as much. Everyone goes with Moss getting 47 receptions and 570 yards not using the TE. BTW, those are LSU records, and Moss's only season of merit. Give him a top 5 TE, and he's not going to just put him in for only blocking. Think the Arnold signing points to a willingness to go get good receivers at TE.

Not wrong. Healthy jimmy g looked good for 1 full season and in parts of 2 prior. Last year yuck but that was all san fran. If he plays, he's good enough to command the weapons we have well (now the line would need to keep him up and that's a stretch right now). If the line let's him down and gets him hit, likely breaks and road to top 5 pick again. Only way I take jimmy is on a pure swap with teddy and 4th or lower going to san fran. Both teams can cut bait next year, and san fran gets some play money now.

His claim to fame is holding chase young at bay for 1 game. Idk projectable guy, improving YOY, athletic. Maybe he can hold the fort at RT year one, and improve to a LT later. I like Jenkins more as he just had really 1 guy give him fits. And in the run game he's damn dominant. Brady Christianson is a dark horse. timed well, played well at BYU. He is getting more buzz post workout. Before hand he was a wait and see type, film good, not great, level of competition good not great. Issue is arm length under the magic 33", but ever draftniks favorite slater is also sub 33. Later guy I'm all in on: Aldrick Jackson- long time iowa LT, even with wirfs around in iowa. Opened eyes at his pro day. I pegged him at LG, but he measure well, tested well. So maybe he can stay at OT.

Fitterer should have a good read on jimmy g. If he believes he's capable of enough to be be the guy he could work. Sf wanted a backup to jimmy g at first. They can get cap relief by switching out jimmy g for teddy. Now if that's not enough, I don't think I'm buying in on him with that contract. Darnold is closer to damaged good. The seeing ghosts was funny and all but damn if he didn't play like it the last year +. I doubt he is cheap enough. Also is he really good enough or another tannehill lite, good but not enough to push the team over the top? Minshew is a wild card. I'm not ready to throw a bunch of money and picks after him. He is middling. We have a little less than that so he may get is to what .500? Do I see a SB champ in that guy? Eh not really. So do we want to be on the mediocrity treadmill with him?

I'm ok with Trask outside of the 1st and cringe on a statue in the 2nd. Now that there will be stupid amounts of QBs all up front, it's going to pull the lackluster lot up with them The secondary to all this: few teams have some really hard pills to swallow with dealing current starting QBs that are going to find new homes if they want a chance to start. Might be a buyers market on a few if them.

He is literally a taller Russell Wilson. Good/great wheels but uses them to create plays with the cannon he calls a right arm. I was skeptical till today. If healthy, he's 1-1, small school be damned. And I think LT is the best prospects to come out since Luck before this. Yeah it's a pro day but he more than answered and on field questions today.

Also looks like we were at VT in force today, with DB and OL staff as well as as a few others. still looking for how my boy Christian Darrisaw fared. Unlikely he is a 2nd round guy though unless he bombed today. I think he's #2-4 OT depending on how you view Slater and Vera-Tucker. I see both more as G 1st with OT potential than OT that can switch to G if they flop like Little. EDIT: Darrisaw did drills only (damn). Haven't found official measurements yet though

The issue he had was speed rushers. There are concerns he won't be the best pass pro guy against speed rushers as he had a few hiccups with OU against speed rushers. Yes the league is putting speed on both sides of the line, but typically you still want the best guy coming at the qb from his blind side. So stick the best OT against pass rushers on the blindside. Maybe that's Jenkins and not Moton, not 100% sure, but Moton atleast has reps as an NFL OT for a while now. If you think Moron can hold up enough on the backside, Jenkins can be the people mover on the right side like Williams or Otah before him. I'm ok with Moton over there as he wasn't lost against dallas over there for a game. I'm not sure he may be elite as a LT, but we know he can handle most rushers he saw on the right side, and is solid in the run game.

Same on Jenkins. If he is there to start end 2, move up for him. Big nasty RT road grader type. Kinda another Otah type of not really a good fit at LT but hell of a RT.

stretch if he stays outside at RT l, but love to bring him in as a LG prospect. Iowa produces solid lineman. He is a sleeper imo.