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6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Jacksonville is much more eager to see Urban gone than we are Rhule.   Urban running the biggest shitshow in the NFL right now.     

Hard to say Trevor is underperforming given what Urban has going on.  And I am a Trevor stan, and I easily predicted his season wouldn't be great.  That was a pretty easy call with Urban. 

On this we agree, these College coaches just aren't cutting it. We signed Rhule for like 60 million, I don't know how much of that is guaranteed so I don't know if we get rid of him anytime soon. 

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Trevor Lawerence averaged 8 yards per pass attempt at Clemson

Cam Newton wasn't average at Auburn.  He was a one man freakshow and owner of one of the greatest football seasons in the history of college football. 

What he did in the pros has nothing to do with how his college career is viewed.  It's like The Golden Calf of Bristol.  The Golden Calf of Bristol is a college GOAT.  A NFL chump.   But the fact he couldn't play in the NFL doesn't mean he was great in college. 

And Lawrence is underperforming as alot of us expected. Cam was average to below average @ Florida and had 1 great season @ Auburn after gaining 20lbs of rip & sitting out almost 2 years. He's always been a fantastic athlete that can't be denied, but not a great QB. One good college season does not make for a good QB, he took us to the Superbowl but that was with his legs, not his arm. Von Miller said the entire game plan was to cut Cam's time in the pocket and he wouldn't be able to hit the side of a barn proved to be pretty correct. We hired 2 almost 7 foot tall receivers and Cam still overthrew them. He did alot for the organization, but the Cam worship has to stop, Delhomme also took us to the superbowl with far less athletic ability.

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cam wasn't average at Auburn.   

Cam had 30 TDs in the air with a 66% pass completion.  Which is what Trevor Lawerence averaged per season. 

He averaged around 10 yards per pass on good days, never good with the deep ball and he was definitely a better runner than passer even then. I watched his whole career, he was never good with the deep ball and that showed when he got to the NFL, his game never changed. Stud athlete, poor QB.

people miss the fact that Cam has been an average QB his entire career, he was average at Florida & Auburn, sure he set records but most were for his legs not his arm. He was often the best athlete on the field which does not make a good QB. Did Carolina get him killed? They sure did but name me a QB with a chip that was better with his legs than his arm, I'll wait....