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Damned if you do ask a 13 year, Super Bowl winning, NFL Head Coach for advice, damned if you don't. I'm sure we'll be asked back to these joint practices next year (which are HUGELY beneficial) if Rhule goes in there and throws a strop because he doesn't get his way. It's not like they're using our players as tackle dummies ffs.

I'd rather Moton / Christensen beat him out than they're handed the job. Rhule isn't Rivera. He doesn't play favourites. The OLine is in flux right now - if Christensen continues to hold it down at RT and Moton looks like he can play LT... and Erving doesn't blow them away he'll be relegated to the swing OT job.

Exactly - so there's a 65% chance you've just wasted a 1st round pick on a QB. Even worse, teams rarely move on quickly from busted 1st round pick QBs - besides Rosen I can't think of a team that didn't give them at least 2-3 years. The Dolphins are going through that process now with Tua, for example.

I wanted Marcell Dareus too - fantastic player in his time.

LB is our weakest unit. I'm sure Rhule and Fitterer have their eyes on the waiver wire when teams cut down to 53. I'm 99% sure you could pick up two or three guys that are better than our starters. Chinn should have won DROTY last season - he plastered over a lot of cracks.

Can't make the club from the tub.

No, it's Sean Chandler. #34, not #42.

Is...is this what it feels like to have a competent GM?

The odds are high that Lawrence, Wilson, Fields and Jones bust too. You have to bring more than odds to the table in a discussion about QBs.

Randy Fasani has a 0.0 QB rating in an NFL game for us. He's not even the worst QB to ever put on a uniform for the Panthers as he at least made it to the regular season.

At the end of the day QB isn't a position you dabble in I don't think. They thought the players they took were better shots at being NFL players than taking a 'punt' on Mond / Newman et al. I'm a huge advocate of carrying three QBs on the 53 man roster at all times and drafting one every other year - unless you're supremely happy with the three you have. Darnold was the new QB this year - I bet we pick up a new one next year (if we don't pick up a backup from the waiver wire).

We might know it, but that's news to Fitterer, Rhule, Brady and Meyer who went out on the first day of FA and signed them both to decent contracts. You don't go after two veteran, ex-first round picks, that aggressively if you don't think they're the answer.

Why is it stunning? The Jaguars have gone all-in on Lawrence. Any team that's interested in Minshew just has to bide their time - there's no way you're getting fair value for a guy that's never going to start for you. Either you let him go for a knockdown price or you let him sit as the backup QB all year.

I get why some of you are in love with Fields - you're still not over Cam Newton and wanted Cam Newton .5. That's weird, but understandable. I don't understand why people seem to hate Rhule. He won 5 games last year (and made us a tough out in the rest) with, and I cannot emphasise this enough, a terrible roster. He's brought in back-to-back stellar Draft classes too. He gets criticised for being an inexperienced College coach. He gets criticised for following the lead of an experienced NFL HC that won 11 games last year and took his team to the Playoffs. He literally can't win.

Then we're fuged.

Jeremy Chinn, the true DROTY, covered up a lot of our deficiencies at LB last year. They're lining him up at S this year so the LB corps has taken a huge step backwards.

2001 - Morgan, Jenkins, Smith. Three All-Pros.

He had a standing start and Carrie was going flat out. Still took 30 yards to track him down.

That LB corps is disgusting and not in a good way.

Bearing in mind Carter is a marginal NFL player, why wouldn't he start the veteran Whitehead? At the end of the day he benched him for his play - that's all you can ask for as a player who's behind a starter on the depth chart. Every job is legitimately up for grabs.

He said that you can go to Ron and ask for advice because he 'played the game'. Rivera is a soft player's coach. Rhule is a hardass. I don't care if he likes Rivera more and neither does Rhule as long as he does his job.

Why would they waste time installing a silent count when they're literally still teaching these guys the basics? It's two thrown-together units. Silent counts and game planning is what you do when the real bullets start flying.

If Fisher makes the roster we're in trouble. He's not an NFL level athlete, unfortunately. The game isn't played in a phone booth anymore - he can't make up for his inability to go sideline-to-sideline with instincts / toughness / football IQ. NFL OCs would absolutely abuse him if he saw any action.

It's a slight overreaction based on one Pre-season game, but it's trending towards Rhule bringing in back-to-back stellar Draft classes. He clearly can evaluate talent. He's not 'churned the QB room' because there's nothing to churn. He took a look at Ramsey in the rookie Mini-Camps and quickly dismissed him. I feel like Colonel Jessop: "Who you gonna bring in? Smith? [retired] RG3? McCown? Bortles? Finley?" Right now we NEED Walker (and Grier) because there isn't better out there.

You're related to Walker, right?