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Well the ground cant cause a fumble so to me it seems weird that it can cause an incompletion.

One is happening in the field of play and one isnt.

Yea it just doesnt work well in the modern defense with 2 deep safeties all the time.

I think this is kind of puff because he is clearly focused on bringing in receivers that fit his old style.

I wasn't comparing them, you were. Nor was I comparing their overall game in any way. I was comparing the single thing you pulled up as your argument.

Perfect example. Now compare the receivers. Here's a secret for you. Deep balls and how good they are is actually at minimum 50% on the receiver. Their separation, their adjustment to the ball thrown, their catch rate, etc. The Bengals receivers greatly help those numbers. The Panthers receivers have historically very much so hurt those numbers. Deep balls are the most overrated thing to judge a qb on that there is.

Hes gotten his ass handed to him every time I remember him playing.

We are obsessed with big straight line speed receivers.

We have had one of the worst groups of skill players in the NFL since he came in the league. Maybe not this year, we will see, but no one is proven.

I think you're making the opposite of the argument you're trying to.

All the stuff about Horn being uncoverable were from the practices without pads. That said, I still think he could develop in to a player over time.

This is more of a question than a statement. Could overly hanging on to pretty good players be a problem for us though?

We dont care about getting receivers that actually get open. We show that every year in the draft. That's not a quality our front office values in receivers.

I think it only helps. They are still just calling plays from the same playbook and you aren't showing wrinkles or tendencies in preseason. They dont watch tape of the other team ahead of time so there is really no chess to it. I dont think it hurts in any way.

It is one of the things ive always heard mentioned about him. Steve Smith has said it a lot, even places like pff that love him, etc. They say he runs "California routes" where they are a little more rounded out and smooth instead of sharp and quick. Almost lackadasical but thats probably too strong. I think he will learn pretty quick that hes going to have to add some urgency and preciseness to his routes, hopefully.

I would say he knew by the fact Sanders was nowhere to be seen in the play when he was supposed to be the check down. Ive not seen the all 22 so I dont know if he could have seen the actual hold or not.

Are these preseason game stats that you're quoting? If so, you've said enough. Also Canales isn't even calling plays in the preseason, and you dont gameplan, watch tape at all, and try to be as vanilla as possible to not show anything for preseason games... please tell me you're not talking about preseason game statistics and these are from something else.

Yea there are some differences though. Sellers was named a captain as a freshman and was sec academic honors every semesters. After this season he will have a lot more experience as well. I dont know that hes worth an early pick just yet but he definitely has the potential. My conspiracy theory about us being into him is mostly based on the fact that we had like 16 south carolina guys in for visits in the pre draft and I dont think we drafted a single one. I feel like they were doing some early digging on Sellers potentially.

He doesnt fit in our scheme at all, trading assets, his age, and the huge contract. It makes absolutely no sense and im hoping its all just people guessing based on our previous need for pass rush. He is a 43 end, I wouldn't want him at edge.

I use YouTube tv.

I hate these posts. Is tepper in the room with you right now? This over simplified single target scapegoat bs is crazy. We have no idea what is even going on behind the scenes. Hes definitely made mistakes as most people new to job do. He clearly has changed his formulas and learned from them so far it appears. He clearly really wants to win and has thrown a lot of money at trying, and seems to learn from mistakes. Did he play parts in why we have sucked? Definitely. The rest is just over reaction scapegoating.

I think if Bryce isn't a fringe top 10 qb this season and we have an early pick again next draft they will definitely give a hard look at qb. Canales clearly isn't dead set on Bryce after benching him after 2 games last season and only bringing him back in after the Dalton injury. I still have my conspiracy theories about LaNorris Sellers.

I think Evero is way too committed to his guys in general.

I really dont understand why we dont give Richardson more snaps at safety. He has done solid every time, and always seems to be around the ball in the passing game. I think he should definitely be the other starting safety right now.

It was above average. Statistically you could say it was average, but when it comes to qbr under pressure, big time throws, big time throws under pressure, etc he was top 5. They werent really calling games to try to get him to put up huge passing numbers last season. Im not saying he was great the second half of last season, but he was definitely well above average.