Luciu5

I was never shocked about Ian Thomas. He was a very good blocker. I think most fans couldn't see that. He's definitely a good vet minimum 3rd TE. He was just overpaid here for his skillset.

Panthers - "We extended our second best lineman!" Huddle - "Why the fug would you do that?!?!??!?!?"

I'd love for you to do a film break down and do an alternative analysis. If you disagree with Icege's assessment, I think it would be good to have another view. I'd read your thread if you did that. I'd love for you to show us what you saw.

We traded 1 spot so we have a 5th year option. 1 spot dude. Personally, I get the logic behind wanting the 5th year option on a WR. I don't think hubris has anything to do with it. And it's not like we gave up more than the equivalent of a 7th rounder to move 1 spot. Basically we got a 5th year option on XL for next to nothing. Really not that big of a deal.

I saw a Panthers/Browns preview from CBS. 10 min long youtube video....7 mins discussing the browns, 2:30 mins discussing Panthers, :30 outro.

This was an excellent watch. I can't believe I watched the whole thing.

For anyone in this thread mentioning Tepper, owners, or billionaires, they really have nothing to do with this. More guaranteed money doesn't mean the owners pay more. It just means, if they get cut we get dead cap and someone else gets paid less than they would have if we had the cap space. I think the only way owners can truly save themselves money when it comes to players is either by keeping the team well below the cap, but I don't see any teams operating at the cap minimum. Either that, or offset language if a player gets picked up by someone else. But even then, that just opens more cap to be spent on different players instead.

It can't be a Burns situation. Tmac is an unknown in the NFL. Burns had what, 4 years of NFL film at the time of the trade offer? Sure you can judge taking the trade or not with 20/20 hindsight. Which I'm sure you will if Tmac isn't all pro this year. I really doubt they turned down 3 first rounders based on the context of this video though. Feels like you are just priming yourself to poo on the team later in the year like you always do.

I agree with OP. 4 players on a second contract is a really, really good draft. nevermind all the other noise, that's it that's the bottom line for grading a draft imo. 2 starters+ is an above average draft in the NFL. Hate on it all you want, but them the facts. Go look it up.

That's odd. They are projecting BY to have 3 rushing TD's in 15 games (really?) and AD to have 0 for a total of 4 rushing TD's by QB's.

What? Dude was a rookie last year and is 22. poo I'd keep him till his rookie contract runs out at least.

Yeah contracts and dollars is probably 100% Brandt with little input from Dan.

I have learned over the years, there are some incredibly stupid fans who probably spend most of their day drooling all over themselves and demanding juice boxes.

I don't know about in the 1st, but I think they could draft another in the mid rounds. Tremble's contract is short and we still need a 3rd TE on the roster.

Cool story bro. Game manager had a lot of throws making peoples mouth drop. Idk you're the psychic so hard to argue there. Maybe Bryce crashes back down next year or maybe he's even better. Idk but you do right?

Right now today? Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow Maybe Hurts, (big) MAYBE Herbert esp. after that game. That's it. Caleb, Daniels, Maye, Nix, and Stroud are TBD. Bryce is honestly in this group as well but he's on our team now and those guys aren't. I'm not swapping one unknown for another today. I'm certain at least 1 of these guys will end up better than Bryce, but I can't say who that will be. I do not have clairvoyance like you. Regarding Bryce being top 20 QB. IF he continues to play like he has in the last 10 games, then he is a top 15 QB already. I am hoping he will. Look, Bryce is an odd duck. Biggest bust in draft history. Got sent to the bench and six weeks later he looks like another QB. He's posting 100+ passer ratings in multiple games. He's going TD for TD with Pat Mahomes. But then there's Dallas. 1 stinker in a string of games where he looked better than the last game, over and over again. When we see him again, will he be Week 1 Bryce or Week 18 Bryce? Idk, but those just discounting his play over the last 10 games are probably being foolish. 36% of his career he's looked decent to amazing. This is a what have you done for me lately league and lately bryce young has been hot. Nah, I'm not trading Bryce for anybody except those 4 today. Otherwise I'm sticking with Bryce to see if he continues to do what he's been doing and can he maintain this level play. That is my biggest question with Bryce. Can he keep playing like this and how often are we going to have a Dallas game with him? Come back to me this time next year about those other guys. My opinion will be different then one way or another.

How prescient of you

I believe Bryce should be our starter next year. The problem now though is, which Bryce will he be? He has been the biggest draft bust in history and he has been a top half of the league QB. Will he revert back to early season 2 Bryce? Maybe. I don't think so, but who knows really.

Bryce Young fuged your wife or something? Why you hate him so much?

I've always thought he took more hate than he deserved. Canales reminds me of Brady in some of his play design. The team was just as much of a mess then as it has been. I agree though that I think he is probably a better OC than HC.

What does "He is" even mean and how is it related to the Panthers? Is he replying to something and I can't see it cause I'm not logged into X?

You said Evero didn't want Burns, Luvu, Chinn, and Burns. I think that's bullshit and I think you are dumber than rocks for thinking this. That's my point. Was trying to help you out by making it about the wording. But no you are just stupid to think he didn't want those guys.

I thought he couldn't throw an out route.

He was bad in the Dallas game. The bucs game was eh, but we didn't lose that game or get blown out because of Bryce Young. No turnovers, 2 TD's, 203 yds. Nothing to write home about stat wise, but bad? I'm assuming you are talking about the bucs game as the other "bad" game from BY. If so, you are out of your damn mind dude. You saw a box score and are assuming or are just spewing poo because morons will believe you.