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Well we'll just see what happens by April. But I put the odds of Bryce Young not being at Panthers training camp at about 1%.

"We never got into any discussions," Morgan replied. "I never opened that door. Didn't want to trade Bryce, still don't and committed to working with him and helping him grow and helping him develop."

I don't like it. You don't like it. But it is what Dan Morgan is going to do. Many people here have sang his praises for months now with some even suggesting he never wanted Bryce Young to begin with which I don't believe for a second. But at the end of the day Dan Morgan listens to David Tepper and he is going to do what he is told.

You don't have to convince me. I think not picking up the option should absolutely be firmly on the table but I just do not see Tepper and Morgan doing that for previously stated reasons. Therefore I'm not going to bother entertaining the notion. Just hoping we actually get real viable competition. If that doesn't happen at the minimum then my perception of that is complete and utter professional malpractice.

He does have a limited frame to work with. But the fact he is only 24 years old has $39 million in the bank in contract money before any endorsements and seemingly can't even be bothered to attempt to make any attempt whatsoever to add even minimal bulk is just pitiful. And he's opened the season three years in a row playing awful football. I mean that's a guy who has been handed starting gigs his whole life

The overwhelming majority of our roster investments the last few years have been about justifying the Bryce Young trade and selection. All roads lead back to that. The Panthers have been an up and down franchise but we have not been without success before Tepper came along. And we had always been primarily a defensive team identity wise. We need to get back to what has had them competitive over the years. We need to shore up the defense. And we need to reset at defensive coordinator. Unfortunately I fear the decision making of our front office remains clouded by their desire to salvage Bryce Young and there is good reason to wonder if they will continue to overcompensate in that aspect instead of moving forward with a methodical approach to making the whole roster more competitive.

If that happens Dan Morgan will end up just another failed GM in a long line of failures across the league the last few decades.

At this point picking up the option is without question. People are going to have to accept that as a starting point. That however should NOT preclude the decision makers from cutting Andy Dalton and bringing in a younger more capable veteran backup and adding a QB in the upcoming draft. This is still a young roster. They can compete but they aren't ready for a playoff run yet. We aren't one piece away yet. Retool and reload in the offseason with actual fallback plans in the QB room and let them duke it out in camp and preseason. That's the logic path forward.

If we had a real NFL offense built around a QB whose success wasn't contingent on everything going completely perfect at all times the refs would be less impactful.

Rozeboom and Shaq are irrelevant. The bigger picture is we have poured an abundance of resources into the offense to the detriment of the defense and our offense can't even outduel a rookie on a rebuilding Saints team. The only way to correct course defensively is to invest draft capital.

Shaq is a small piece on the Bills defense. Here he would have had significantly more responsibility which would have opened more opportunities for him to be exposed in the open field. You guys are hopped up on copium suggesting anything else.

I wish that actually contributed to anything meaningful for this franchise. Between The Leadership Council and Dave Canales confirming the bye week was a hindrance it's enough for complete apathy to set in for any fan. Too many highly paid players on this team for the lowly Saints with nothing to play for to look more motivated than our guys with the division and a playoff spot on the line for the first time in 8 years.

Far more concerning than anything is Jaycee Horn at this point. Between him and Bryce and the resources we have tied up in both of them the inability to perform at a high level against a rebuilding Saints team is just........

I like Shaq but I'm not going to delude myself into believing he wouldn't be out there whiffing on tackles too. Is he an upgrade over Rozeboom? Yeah but at 31 he was never going to save this linebacker room.

Very unsurprising news unfortunately. This is why I largely go out of my way not to watch any non Panthers games. This league despises the Panthers. Anyways. This team and specifically this offense is going nowhere until we get a QB who A) doesn't throw an unacceptable number of poorly placed balls and B) doesn't need everything from top to bottom to go perfectly in order to succeed at looking like a marginal top 20 QB.

This news is a GIANT glowing neon warning sign for the Panthers front office. Unfortunately I have legitimate and justified doubts they will heed said warning. Everything they have done to this point has been about doubling tripling and quadrupling down.

If that is ultimately the course of action the decision makers go with they will be doing so at their own peril. I'll just sit back and wait for it to end the same way it has the last 3 years.

Let's save each other the word salads and just see if we can agree on this. Bryce will be here in 2026 regardless. But outside of him we need a new QB room in 2026. We need a capable younger veteran and we need another young QB. We need new life and actual competition for the most consequential position on the field. If that does not happen we will assuredly get more of the same and the fans will begin another round of blasting each other instead of correctly identifying what is truly holding us back. Our decision makers. Let's see what they end up doing. All we can do is wait.

Let's be real. Signing Matt Kalil who was at the time inconsistent at best was always an extremely risky move and largely initiated by the fact he was related to one of our most prominent players Ryan Kalil. Memories get fuzzy the longer time passes I guess. Go watch some old Panthers games with Ted Ginn nearly losing us games. Then watch Cam Newton keep going back to him again and again and again. Then read all the Xavier Legette criticism while making excuses for Bryce being swept by rookie 2nd round pick Tyler Shough. Throwing TMac under the bus is just further proof how deranged the Bryce Young defense force has become. Bryce Young can barely compete in this gutter iteration of the NFC South. Let's see him take this WR core to the playoffs in an NFC South with Drew Brees and Matt Ryan

You act like we gave Cam Newton the highest paid OL in the league and back to back first round WR's including one #8 overall for the first time in franchise history. Give Bryce Young Byron Bell on his left and Nate Chandler on his right and Ted Ginn out there dropping passes that hit both his hands multiple times in the same drive. And for good measure give him Corey Brown instead of Jalen Coker. Just win baby.

Man I get being up and down because the team is a rollercoaster and when the pressure is on they fold like a lawn chair but fưck this hit dog mentality. We better put up a fight against the Bucs.

If you think Icky in his prime is bad let's give Bryce Young prime Byron Bell and tell him to win with that. Until then. The whining needs to stop.

What does a 5th round TE afterthought nobody would bat an eye over if we released him have to do with the face of the franchise and the third highest paid player on the roster? You are being ridiculous. Yet you wonder why your threads are getting deleted. Nobody wants the old you Mr. Scot. Take a hint. Turn the page.