frankw

Only truly stupid or ignorant people disliked Cam Newton. He made our franchise relevant he tried to change the culture despite constantly being criticized for hating to lose. He looked the part out of the gate in a lockout year too. He was the complete opposite of what we have now. There is zero culture here. Just guys who make hollow generic statements over and over. I have no idea how anyone that isn't under the influence of something could draw parallels to the prime Cam era with that we have now. It's honestly offensive

That's what I'm saying. Exactly. I posted this in another thread. But Cam's MVP season we had $17 million and some change of salary cap invested into the OL for 2015. That was 14th in the league at the time. Right now we have $85 million+ invested in the OL for the year and that's even before Icky's upcoming new contract extension. Yet still somehow some people want more for poor Bryce Young. It is truly insane.

Injuries are going to happen. If a backup left tackle causes Bryce Young to fully revert back to arguably the worst starting QB in the league he isn't the guy anyway. We have the most salary cap invested in the OL for 2025 by a wide margin.

How dare anyone discuss what is clearly ailing this franchise. The nerve!

Well let's be realistic here. He could have taken one look at Bryce Young on tape and known what he was getting. As JackieLee stated his work with QB's like Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield is a big contributing factor in why he was hired. At the same time we also have to recognize other factors. Seemingly and realistically he was the only one seriously considering the job. And as far as "fixing" Bryce Young goes one entire staff has already gotten the axe over him. Frank Reich was vilified as possibly the worst head coaching hire ever. 2 years later the more we see of Bryce the more it looks like he was the problem. Right now we are at a true crossroads. We cannot just play out the season with Young and be a serious franchise. We have to try and see what we have in the young roster and firmly get some sort of look at Canales offense. At this point Dave Canales needs to earn the right to draft his own QB. So far he has developed bupkis at the most important position. And he and Dan Morgan made the decision to not give Bryce Young one iota of competition for the third year in a row. He cannot claim the cupboards are bare beyond his control.

That data jives with what we've seen with our eyes. 50/50 balls left and right.

I had to go and look up who our QB coach is and it's just some random jabroni. https://www.panthers.com/team/coaches-roster/will-harriger Meanwhile we threw $8 million at Andy Dalton just to be a friend to Bryce Young and Bryce once again opened the season looking like a bottom 3 QB at best. Just clownery all around.

Also just for comparison sake. Here's what the Panthers spent on the OL for 2015 the year Cam Newton nearly went undefeated with Ted Ginn Jr as his #1 WR. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/position/offensive-line/_/year/2015/table/active/sort/cap_total

If Bryce Young can't compete with this OL as a starting QB it's never going to happen.

That wasn't even your post genius. To be honest with you I have no need to converse with you since you have revealed yourself to be someone who lowkey despises the only MVP of this franchise. Be gone.

You know these threads are archived right? No one needs to save posts. I did not look up that thread or link that thread someone else did. I only quoted it out of amusement at how inept we are as a franchise and how we as fans rationalize that ineptitude even when it's something as glaringly dicey as drafting a player with a major injury. You're getting mad at the wrong person regardless. Maybe direct this energy at our current GM who is the former right hand man of the worst GM of any team in recent memory

Famous last words.

Even Kyle fuging Allen won when the pressure was on. We're still waiting to see Bryce Young not play like utter dogshit in the season opener.

Playing better and winning when the pressure is completely off is not a first overall pick.

I mean at this point he already told us all what time it is. Following his disastrous rookie season which was one of the 3 or 4 worst all time in terms of yards per pass he bluntly stated his first goal was to do as little as possible or shop for clothes or stream Netflix. The complete opposite of a dawg.

Hell of a play by Jaycee. Very unfortunate the offense did not adequately reward him for his efforts.

He's been blown out by the Jaguars twice now. And the other time they were starting their backup.

Wild. That's a guy you take a flier on in the mid to late rounds. Not someone you trade up to draft first overall to carry your franchise.

Yikes overload.

Just for reference regarding the Legette pick. Bryce Young's father publicly lobbied for XL to be the pick for his son.

You aren't going to make any headway. The image attached with that post amuses me considering there isn’t a player or coach that hasn't or won't get thrown under a burning bus to deflect blame from #9. If the kid was showing flashes of brilliance throughout his 31 career games that would be one thing but the majority of them are either historically awful or mid.

High standards for everyone but the #1 pick you traded up to draft. Is it any wonder this team continues to flounder?

The defense has been a problem we all know this. Evero and the talent level have held us back no doubt. But it is also worth questioning what effect the QB play or lack thereof is having on that side of the ball. And it is absolutely legitimate to consider that not only them being on the field more but watching the QB and the offense waste drive after drive has an effect on morale if the unit is already not ideal.