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Well that's good to hear. Certainly Canales can walk and chew gum at the same time ie develop more than one QB. This will make me feel better about the QB room.

I don't recall on that. The guy who was the loudest Matt Corral fan was rippadon and he was always saying "let's eat" referring to Golden Corral. It was cringy. But I couldn't help but feel sorry for the guy. It's been tough being a Panthers fan that's for damn sure.

I agree completely about needing more impact players but based on what Dan Morgan did in the 2nd round last year trading up for not just a luxury position but an already injured player in his first draft his judgment is a concern until proven otherwise. Hopefully he learned something we'll see.

Well you have to remember you are talking to someone who was once the most outspoken defender of Teddy Bridgewater. He's gonna do what he's gonna do to carry water for his guy. He's certainly committed to his cause.

2022 2023 and 2024 should be enough to get those involved blackballed from scouting and working in front offices ever again. Just unforgiveable ineptitude.

I was unaware of this as well. Supposedly he's been willing to do individual workouts with teams instead. Still though that's not what you want to see at all from someone under consideration for a top 10 pick especially at a position like TE. We just need to go DL at 8 and keep it moving.

This is basically the perception our FO to the rest of the league right now.

I appreciate your enthusiasm. I'm hoping for a successful outcome for a change. We'll see.

Best speculated return I've seen suggested so far is an extra mid second round pick. The best 2nd round pick we've made in the last 8 years was Taylor Moton all the way back in 2017. And that was a Dave Gettleman pick. We are simply not good at this.

Sounds like the Panthers front office likes the smell of their own farts too much and thinks there are chump teams willing to give up a haul but this isn't the draft for it. And our rep is still the team that gets fleeced not the team that does the fleecing.

If there is anyone suggesting we are a defense away from legitimate playoff contention they are smoking some good poo. I think we should be able to compete in this pitiful division but anything else is hopium at best. Now as far as this insistence from our FO on overvaluing Adam Thielen goes it makes me concerned for their judgment overall and if I am being harshly blunt it just sounds like Scott Fitterer logic and says they have virtually no confidence in their ability to draft receivers.

Dropping 12 spots and only netting an extra mid 2nd that we'll probably draft yet another bust with.

Eye test wise Bryce looked like a different player by the end of last season. Even someone like myself that has been very skeptical will readily admit he looked very confident and made some very nice throws you would expect to see from a top pick. Statistically though you are correct there's been some coping going on and there were times that people were just clinging to whatever random statistical anomaly they could find from randos on Twitter. On the surface I get it. We need something anything to feel upbeat about. But if we want to win with Bryce not just short term but years from now we've got to increase YAC and that isn't going to happen with folks here awkwardly rejoicing over giving comically slow Adam Thielen a raise. But we don't have to draft a TE in the top ten to address this. We just need to be intelligent and stop trying to draft the same mold of WR over and over.

Yeah certainly it can be done in a way that's beneficial and I'm not saying we shouldn't consider it or that I don't believe in Morgan overall. But there are some concerns. I'm just of the opinion that trying to be clever and work the draft with trades should not be our highest priority. Changing our fortunes with our draft picks as a whole should be our priority. If that means just staying put that's fine. Just draft good to great football players don't reach for need and call it a draft because we really need a minimum solid class this year if we are to begin making some headway in getting ourselves out of the cellar.

At this point Jalon or Mykel it is what it is. No need to agonize over it so much nobody we pick at 8 is going to save the defense overnight anyway. All that matters is if this staff led by Evero can develop them. Very much remains to be seen and proven.

I largely detached from the NBA altogether the last few months. I had no idea the Pistons somehow stumbled into the playoffs. Seems like even the poverty franchises are a few tiers above us. Unreal.

We can't right this ship in a single offseason anyway. Dan Morgan needs to focus on the basics. If he gets hung up on trying to get value out of this pick or that pick and trying to acquire extra assets like Scott Fitterer used to always thinking he was the smartest guy in the building then Dan is in all likelihood in for another rude awakening. And as usual the fanbase will be the ones picking up the pieces.

Don't give them any ideas.

I'm ready for Thursday let's get on with it.

I vaguely remember hearing about this. Briefly perused a sub reddit about him. He worked for Pro Football Focus. And apparently he had some past takes about our starting QB. I don't know how much to value knowledge from guys like this who really aren't all that different from the average sports bettor in terms of insight. I guess maybe he can help? https://www.reddit.com/r/panthers/comments/1cnfusn/person_panthers_plan_to_hire_sumersports_vp_eric/

It's almost like things don't actually change despite firing and hiring other people. But we've been assured our owner is hands off now so that couldn't be.

You say this about literally almost everyone. It's boy who cried wolf. I belly laughed at comparing Cam Newton to Eric Reid. One tranformed the entire franchise one was barely a blip. Thanks for the laugh.

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I'm not thrilled at the fact Dan thinks wheeling and dealing is his forte. He needs to be less focused on acquiring more picks and more focused on actually identifying legitimate talent.