frankw

Listen man. I don't want to be rude. But I have to be very direct here. You are not dealing in realities. Here is the reality. It took #1 overall pick Bryce Young who was billed as a generational ball distributor 19 starts to surpass UDFA Kyle Allen's passing yardage from 2019 over the course of 13 games. Bryce Young is not favorably comparable to any other former Panthers QB expect Jimmy Clausen. It is what it is.

Some people think they know what a game winning drive looks like. Others actually know. I've seen Cam Newton do it against Drew Brees while both were in their primes with the division on the line. https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/331222029/saints-panthers Game winner to JAG Domenik Hixon.

The people who complain the most about negative Bryce Young convo create just as many new threads about him as anyone else.

Take thinly veiled swipes at our two only long term starting QB's in 30 years just to prop up Bryce Young while wholly omitting the historic rushing from the engine of our offense Rico Dowdle. We are 30th in passing YPG btw. There is being optimistic and then there is just being plain delusional.

Bryce would have extended some plays scrambling with his legs but then again he also has a high number of fumbles so you never know what you're going to get and the way the Bills were getting after Andy (sacked 7 times) it stands to reason Bryce would have been under duress often. What exactly do you want here? I mean I'm going to go by the gameplan I saw after Bryce turned the ball over against GB. Clearly Dave Canales was deliberately trying to limit the opportunities for him to make a catastrophic mistake. And didn't Micah Parsons log zero QB pressures? So with that in mind if you are asking for anyone to argue our offense with Bryce would have had much if any success against that opportunistic motivated Bills defense while we were also splitting carries between Rico and Chuba who had the majority of them which ended up being a situation resulting in a weeks worth of scathing criticism and deservedly so then I'm going to just have to say we can agree to disagree.

GB had interest did he already have a workout with them yesterday? Certainly kick the tires. But maintain low expectations.

Best thing I can say about the Hornets currently is we do have more promising young talent in the event of Ball or Miller missing games. But the culture remains the problem. When the leaders of the team are quick to take games off eventually that is going to translate to the rest of the roster even the younger guys. What's their incentive to keep grinding you know? Anywho. We lost to the winless Pelicans last night. Doesn't get any lower than that.

Are you insinuating we haven't gotten blown out while Bryce was starting? https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401547629/panthers-jaguars

Then you should know what the huddle looked like through the Jake years. It was not sunshine and rainbows I assure you. If and when the team can string together consistent competitive football games the rest of the season and not get completely blown out again then you will see less negativity. If the team can somehow compete for the division which we haven't done in many many years then you will absolutely see more positivity. But that's a tall order. Right now we're on a 1 game win streak. That's the best we can say.

This is not even scratching the surface of how toxic broader social media is. Don't you frequent Twitter? No shameless grifting here. We had a big upset win the week after we got taken to the woodshed by the Bills and our offense was largely willed by another historic perfomance from a running back we signed in free agency. I mean if you expect nothing but people doing cartwheels and having parties you're probably just not built for this team. The biggest thing in the back of everyone's mind even if they won't admit it right now is this is still the Carolina Panthers and even when they play well we're still left waiting to wonder when not if they will lay another egg. If you lived through the Jake Delhomme era this shouldn't have to be explained.

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You've largely served as a key source of Bryce Young propaganda so certainly no one here expects you to acknowledge difficult truths. Hope things go well for you on your next lengthy hiatus we all know you'll be taking soon. God forbid you actually show up when things aren't going well.

Cam Newton was a rookie of the year and MVP and had one of the best arms in the NFL in his prime. He passed the eye test in spades. It is unbelievably comical that you chastise me for mentioning Bryce has similarities to Clausen and then you just invoke Cam Newton like that makes any sense to a rational observer whatsoever. Even Cam Newton with his questionable at times accuracy is a whole world away from where we are now with a #1 pick 38 games into his career being amongst the bottom in the league in multiple key statistical metrics.

Considering the circumstances TMac has been very impressive for a guy only 9 games into his career. I'm unsure about the TE room but at least we have young players we are trying to develop instead of just trotting out guys like Ian Thomas. There will be ups and downs but let the development continue. That's all I've asked for this season. Anything else is a bonus.

Yards per play they are comparable. And that's a rookie Jimmy Clausen while Bryce is 38 games deep. The only difference is Bryce Young has decent legs. You don't have to like it. But it's reality.

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/478982-our-2nd-most-productive-wr/?do=findComment&comment=6953378

LaMelo Ball out for tonight's game against the Pelicans. So far nothing has changed with our two best players availability very early in the season. Sad.

What a pitiful QB room.

If it works great. But they are just one game removed from getting the doors blown off at home.

Bryce Young career passing yards per attempt: 5.8 Bryce Young passing yards per game in his third season as a starter: 173.8 Jimmy Clausen career passing yards per attempt: 5.3 Jimmy Clausen average passing yards per game in 2010: 119.8 He's a high end Jimmy Clausen it is what it is man. His yards per play within an offense that relies on others are within the same threshold. You can win some games with him when everything is going right and other moving parts are carrying the burden. But that is not worthy of a #1 pick and you absolutely have to keep looking.

Bryce Young is not Jake Delhomme. In any capacity. They don't belong in the same conversation. If Bryce is in line with any Panthers QB it's Jimmy Clausen.

You keep on acting like the police if it makes you feel better bub. We'll be right here like we always have.

It's the fickle ones who always have the most to say about what they think a fan should or shouldn't be. Comical.

For people like FreeFua and others every single player on the Panthers roster exists solely to eventually be a scapegoat for Bryce Young. You would think this kid was one of the 5 best QB's in the NFL three years in a row and not consistently amongst the worst in many statistical metrics.

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/478611-join-me-in-betting-against-the-panthers-this-season/