Deuce_Deuce

I said stop throwing the ball. We might as well wildcat with DJ and CMC the rest of the year.

2 hours ago, BrianS said:

You're right, we're not.  But that doesn't mean run, run, pass, punt is going to fix our issues.  Over reliance on either the run OR the pass is going to make you an easy target for a good defense.  An unbalanced offense is simply not sustainable.

Our sack numbers aren't problematic over the last four games.  Our sack numbers are problematic over the entire season save the first two weeks.  Oddly enough, the last two full games CMC has played.

This is the part of CMC that a lot of people gloss over.  The guy is a complete back.  He brings balance to our offense.  Yes, 100%, he's a great player.  Can't argue that.  But what's more important is that with him on the field, you just don't know what the Panthers will do.  Run?  Pass?  Option?  That's the real value.

Unfortunately, while we have some good backs, none of them are the complete player that CMC is.  Our backups make us predictable.  And we've seen the results.

 

I'm all for balance. All I'm asking for, is that we utilize these guys out of the backfield. Why press to get the ball down the field when we can check for 5 yards, steal some first downs, and gather some momentum and rhythm. I think Hubbard has shown some promise running the ball, and obviously CMC is an all pro talent rushing and receiving, and now with Abdullah we can pick up some chunk plays out of the backfield.

Darnold has to protect the ball. Point blank period. I don't care about the arm talent, if you're never on time, and consistently making poor decisions. If DJ wants big money, then step up. Tremble needs to be more involved, and hopefully Robby can get going on so double moves off of play action the second half of the season.

1 hour ago, BrianS said:

I'd like to remind everyone who loved the game plan that we scored 19 points against a very bad team.  That gameplan isn't going to net consistent success.  If it was that simple, we would have won a lot more games last year with TB5.

Our biggest problem remains our OLine.  While they looked somewhat better run blocking, the fact remains we kicked four FG's.  We managed to hide the problems for a week.  That's all we saw.

God, you people are a broken record. You noticed that our O-line is a problem, good for you. We're not about to find 2 studs too take pressure off the guys blocking now. There is no way Sam Darnold leads this team to the promise land throwing the ball 35 times a game. Did y'all see the amount of sacks we gave up the last 4 games? We have to keep teams honest and protect the ball. Complain about the line call you want, but we're not winning anything with 3 turnovers a game and the backs getting less than 20 touches a game.

It doesn't have to be 45 runs every game, but the backs have to be heavily involved until Sam gets comfortable and receivers step up and catch the ball. Especially if we're running PJ or somebody off the street.

5 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Doesn't matter, just keep running the ball.

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Amazing the difference starters on defense, running the ball, and the check down makes. Chubba and Abdullah were great today. Defense looks like the unit from up until the second half of Dallas. Good win 

22 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Lol at the people that are ready to move on from CMC after a hamstring.  

Not a knee. Not an ankle.

A hamstring.

 

Do y'all enjoy being this dumb?

Right??? I don't get it. The man is unquestionably a bonafide stud, and people wanna cut ties 4 years in...this is why we don't win. Terrible fan energy.

27 minutes ago, frankw said:

Still have to identify the right qb moving forward while navigating the 18 million we guaranteed to Darnold next year. You are correct there is no quick fix but if we have an opportunity to draft a replacement and move on from McCaffrey we will have to reluctantly consider this. Those cap hits the next couple of years only get worse and you can't ignore trends both him and Saquon have been banged up a lot and the Giants didn't even need him or their top three receivers to make quick work of us. As others have said it isnt the 80's anymore you need someone other than an rb to be your leader.

Definitely need more than a RB1 to win, and you're right, Giants didn't need Barkley to beat us, but we're a bad team. Great players are the difference between playoff teams and super bowl teams. If McCaffrey is demanding Herschel Walker to Vikings value, if get it. If he's not, sometimes it's cheaper to keep her. Again, CMC is not just a running back. Tremendous value in the passing game. Let's see how he looks coming back before we pull the trigger on this kid. He's a proven commodity.

Just now, frankw said:

With what picks though? But even if this is the case if we draft another back we need to get out from under McCaffrey's contract and actually build an oline.

Gotta scout, and take the best available guy. Look, there is no quick fix for this situation. We gotta get some maulers up front for CMC and whatever quality tough runner we can draft, and you can scheme plays for these receivers. If we can sure up one side at the very least, it'll be a huge improvement.

Just now, Deuce_Deuce said:

We need to draft another back next year, and use CMC in more creative ways. Motion out wide, throw him in the slot, take some pressure off the guys on the outside. 

It's crazy to me that y'all really think getting rid of CMC is an option. These 100 catch, 1000 yard receiving RUNNING BACK! You can win in this league running

And playing good defense. We did it for years with D-Williams, Cam, and Stewart. 

We need to draft another back next year, and use CMC in more creative ways. Motion out wide, throw him in the slot, take some pressure off the guys on the outside. 

It's crazy to me that y'all really think getting rid of CMC is an option. These 100 catch, 1000 yard receiving RUNNING BACK! You can win in this league running

12 minutes ago, Spatric said:

So in your opinion who lost the last two games, the O that lost the game in dallas in the final minute because the D didn't make a stop or again in OT last week when the O marched 94 yards to tie the game and lose in OT because the D failed to make another stop.  

The defense is physically tired at the end of games and mentally beaten before them. They know they have to play mistake free, and it's wearing on them. 

13 minutes ago, Spatric said:

Just a thought, Maybe instead of blaming the O, maybe just ,maybe he should be looking at a D that over the last two games gave up over - in OVER - 900 yards of O.  

My first point, wassup fellas. Defense has been bad, but should get better when when Shaq and Gilmore get on the field. Shae will definitely help out the run defense. 

No reason for us to not run the ball 40 times a game. See if we can get Tremble involved in some play action, and some more gadget runs for DJ. Brady has got to get the ball in his playmakers hands if Darnold can't.