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Do they not count XL not getting his 2nd foot in as a drop? In a true sideline toe tap type of catch, I don't think it should be ruled a drop as that's just a difficult play to make anyways. But when he's just catching a ball in stride and takes 2 full huge steps as he's catching the ball so that his 2nd foot comes down out of bounds, to me, that should be considered a drop, as your below average college WR would have been able to get their 2nd foot down in that situation.

Yes and no I'm not using it as a way of saying "he's going to end up with these stats at the end of the season" But more of a way of saying to the people who are saying he didn't impress them, that they're not seeing the forest through the trees. I'd bet those same people who are saying they weren't impressed, if you had told them before the game, that he'd end up with 85 catches for 1,150 yards this year, they'd say that was a great rookie season (because it would be). So I'm just pointing out that it's a bit disingenuous to say this game didn't impress them, but knowing they would be impressed by that season long stat line if he had the same output every week.

Nothing like going into your Week 3 home opener by benching your supposed franchise QB and putting in your 40 year old backup QB the week of that game. Zero chance Bryce isn't the starter in Week 3 unless he gets hurt next year

Hopefully about at least 13, potentially all 16 more Ride this bitch out on the rims and if we're in the running for the #1 pick, keep riding them, if we're not but still a Top 10 pick, go for a tire change and give Hooker a start or two and just see what might happen. Not expecting him to show he can be a long time solution in that situation, but if there isn't a great QB option for where we might be picking, it could let us pass on drafting a QB, use the draft capital to build the defense and give him a shot in 26 with a new backup who can start if it goes poorly.

Guy is on pace for a rookie season of 85 catches for 1,156 yards after Bryce looked like complete utter garbage and he "lost" a 30+ yard catch in which he drew a PI but maybe still made the catch (plus another 15 yarder negated due to a meaningless penalty, add just that 15 yarder and he's on pace for 102 rec and 1,400+ yards). But sure, he's meh and uninspiring, okay.

Not saying this is a great look, but honestly, it's too short with too little context to really make any kind of definitive statement about it. For a few reasons... First, it's very short and doesn't show what was happening right before, for all we know, there was a coach standing there with him and walked away seconds before that clip started. We also don't know what happened after, in particular, if this was cut off seconds before the waterways ran off the field to resume play, then it all makes even more sense because.... Second, to the people upset that he's not "in the huddle with his teammates", must have never watched an NFL game before. QB's are NEVER in the huddle at a time like that. They are ALWAYS standing 10-15 yards away from the huddle because they're standing there so the team can make any subs they want without having too many men in the huddle, as the huddle is wherever the QB is. Not to even mention that during timeouts, it's pretty standard practice for the players to stay on the field with waterboys coming out to them, while the QB comes over to talk to the coaches. So if this is coming out of the timeout, he's standing away from the huddle to let the play call come in and allow the team to swap players on the field, it's literally standard protocol in the NFL. And finally, if you don't think players glance up at the jumbo tron during timeouts during a game, then you're just fooling yourself or lying to yourself in trying to hold Bryce to some standard that other people aren't. And I say all this as no Bryce truther, I can't stand him and want him replaced, but this one is far from the proof of a problem that some people are trying to make it out to be.

Rookie 2nd rounder in his first career game (and a few weeks post punctured lung) gets 6 snaps, is doubled on 5 of them, created a pressure to force a QB scramble on the only one he was singled, and still put a little pressure on one of the doubles which ended up being an INT........... And people look at that as a bad first impression? Even if you wanted to see a better move to beat or get off the double team, just the fact that he's making teams account for him with 2 players on a given snap, is a win for the defense. It's up to the rest of the defense to make the other team pay for doing so, you can't fault him for that. Seriously, it's like some people are just going to be upset with everything if we're not a SB contender every season and play like it every snap of every game. I've been screaming it all offseason, we're not a player or two away from being a contender, we're still in the early phase of a re-build, especially if we don't have the QB (spoiler alert, we don't). Sometimes you just have to see potential and growth from a team at this phase of the process, expecting elite play in week 1 out of guys like Scourton is a picture perfect recipe for ending up upset. If that's what he does in his first game coming off the freak injury and less practice time while recovering, I'm extremely optimistic of what he can turn into with more experience and time to work on his craft.

I honestly don't see how anyone can see what T-Mac has done in camp, in the first preseason game, in the first game, and still come away thinking he's "meh at the moment" Seriously, it's like you think he should have come out and put up a 15 catch, 200 yard, 3 TD day and anything less was going to make you unhappy with him. As I pointed out already today, after one game where Bryce looked like he belonged as a backup QB for a college team, he still sits 25th in the league in receiving yards, 19th amongst WRs, and is 2nd overall and 1st amongst rookie WRs in yardage. But sure, he's just meh.

As someone with Kyler and T-Mac on his fantasy team, I'd be okay with that, as I'd likely get a great game from Kyler and then T-Mac would rack up garbage time fantasy points himself. That game already has me realizing we're moving on from Bryce after this year, so I have two main goals already for the season. First is that we develop T-Mac as he's clearly the player on this team with the highest potential right now, the second is we end up with the best possible draft pick to replace Bryce, because he's just not that guy. (third place would be developing Scourton and Princely to see if we can hopefully find at least one good pass rusher there on a cheap contract the next 3 years)

Oh wow, yea, he really made the CB bite on that out move and burned him to the inside. Which is strange, because I was told he can't create any separation, weird. The worst part is with Bryce's arm strength and seeing him throwing it from midfield, even though T-Mac was clearly going to be wide open deep, it probably would ave ended up as a lofted 50/50 ball because he'd need to slow down for it in the end. Which again, is why T-Mac is the right WR for Bryce, because when those open deep balls become 50/50 deep balls because of Bryce, he's still able to make a catch on those unlike someone such as Golden who'd really struggle to make that kind of play in the end.

Honestly don't remember when it was, but they blitzed a DB who wasn't picked up and he hit Bryce as he was throwing and the ball just fluttered away since he was going deep to T-Mac on the play. T-Mac was lined up on the left side of the formation and ran a post route I think, but since they never showed the replay other than from behind the QB to show the hit, I'm not 100% sure.

When you do, if you remember, quote this post and show me the play where Bryce got hit as he was trying to launch one to T-Mac. The announcers were saying he had broken loose and was going to be open, but they never showed the replay, so I’d be very curious what the back end of the play looked like on that one and if he really had an easy TD with another half second of time for Bryce as they made it seem

So you’re saying you’d rather have taken a lesser WR or TE because you feel they align better for our awful QB who is likely to be off the team next year as of this moment? Thats how bad teams stay bad. Draft the best players, if your current scrubs can’t use them properly, replace them with better players and build a better roster. T-Mac is the truth, get on board this train or get run over by it.

Yep, as you can see here, Bryce is starting to throw the out route to XL but realizes he wasn't turning his head for it. Then the next picture is when he finally turned, but as you can see, he turned the wrong way and is still drifting towards the front corner of the end zone, not to the sideline for the quick out for the first down. So I think he both ran the wrong route and didn't get his head around in time anyways. Why we're trying to run that play on 4th down to XL instead of T-Mac will never make any sense to me. Seems like a classic case of the coaches saying, "they obviously think we're going to T-Mac here, so let's try and fool them and throw it to XL instead and use T-Mac as a decoy." But sometimes you just have to let your best players make plays, even if they're a rookie and even if the defense knows you're going that way.

So to you, a player needs to break records to show that he's a true elite prospect? Complete nonsense And FYI... yes, he's 100% on pace to break the Panthers rookie receiving record, after a game where our QB looked like he'd get cut from your average HS squad. KB has the record with 1,008 yards and T-Mac is currently on pace for about 1,150 on the season, so............

100% on that second part. If Fisch and co. stick around for one more year, last year isn't the dumpster fire it is and he puts up a season that ends up getting him into the Top 5. I wanted defense in a vacuum as well, because we needed it, but the reality is that there just wasn't any defensive player there at 8 that made any sense to take over him. Carter would have made sense, but I'm still not even sure Graham would have since we already have DB, it was a bad draft to need defense in the Top 10. Once it was clear there wasn't a worthy defensive candidate for us outside of Carter, and that he'd never have fallen to us, clearly it was an easy call to me. Bear Down!

Oh that was definitely it, I've always just loved watching him make those kind of catches, his ability to reach out and pluck the ball out of the air with late hands is next level kind of stuff and why I've never been concerned when people bring up the "he can't separate" thing. No, he's not a true elite separator like some of these 6'ish quick twitch WRs like Chase, JJ, Nabers, etc. But he brings other elements to the game that even those guys just can't do, because he just has size that can't be taught and combined with his hands/radius, with good QB play, also can't be stopped by any DB.

Anyone have a clip of his catch that was called back on the illegal man downfield? Not sure I've seen it since the play happened, but I want to see it again. I feel like I just remember it looked like the ball was going to hit the defender in the back and he made a great adjustment to swim around him and make a great hands catch.

T-Mac anytime TD next week seems like a GREAT bet After how yesterday went, it would be a shock if he isn't HEAVILY targeted from the opening kickoff this weekend, I'm expecting close to 15 targets this week. Combined with it being played in Arizona, so you've got to think his college teammates are going to make the 2 hour drive up from Tucson to see him play. Plus it's not a long trip from his hometown in SoCal either, so he should have a lot of family and friends in attendance on this one. All just aligns for him to get into the end zone I think.

I'm not so sure that it was T-Mac on that one, I think it was meant to be a quick out to XL but he ran the wrong route. Can't seem to find it in this moment, but this morning I saw a clip of the play basically from the angle of the first down marker on the sideline and it looks like as soon as Bryce took the snap, he looked XL's way and started to cock back his arm to throw it but XL just never turned around and kept drifting towards the end zone. I could be wrong, but to me, albeit on just one look, it looked like he expected XL to turn his head around and run an out route 2 yards past the LOS to pick up the 1st and when he didn't, Bryce panicked.

Where T-Mac stands after Week 1 (albeit before MNF) Tied for 25th in the NFL in receiving yards overall... 2nd among all Rookies Tied for 19th in the NFL in receiving yards amongst WRs... 1st among all Rookie WRs Tied for 10th in the NFL in 1st Down Catches... Tied for 1st among all Rookies and 1st among all Rookie WRs Not too shabby for being stuck with Bryce throwing him the ball in a broken offense.

I'll be honest, with how bad we looked and paying more attention to my Fantasy matchup thanks to the delay (and how bad we looked), I wasn't paying the most attention when we were on defense. But I did see Princely out there a decent amount, but I don't remember seeing Scourton out there even one time. Was wondering if I just didn't see him given my minimal attention when on defense, or if maybe he didn't play with him still coming back from the injury and getting into game shape.

The giveaway was putting on his college tape, sitting in front of the screen with my eyes open, and watching what I'm seeing in front of me.

If that wasn't a throw away but an actual pass attempt, then he should be cut right now, not tomorrow, not even just "today" but right this very second.