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We played 3 bad teams with 3 bad QBs and only scored 5 offensive touchdowns in said games. Mayfield barely completed 50% of his passes against bad defenses. Mayfield has 42 completions to 9 sacks and 5 fumbles/botched snaps. McCaffrey has 10 receptions for 57 yards through 3 games against said defenses. Moore doesn't even have 100 yards on the season and has caught 7 passes at a dismal 38.9 target %, largely because Mayfield blows. Think about that for a second. Mayfield has a combined 14 sacks/fumbles. Moore/McCaffrey have a combined 17 receptions. Through 3 games, we have just as much of a chance as seeing a sack or a fumble as we do Moore and McCaffrey getting the ball in the pass game. There is no hope.

The Brown slander this offseason never made sense to me. It takes awhile before DTs come into their own, unless they are can't-miss, HOF-level prospects like Suh and Donald.

And yet, they have more offensive touchdowns than us.

I don't think I've ever been more sad by a Panthers win. But I think yesterday was a fluke. Jameis couldn't physically take advantage of this crap team. I don't see another win on the schedule anytime soon. The Falcons, maybe? But they have looked better than us. Cardinals and 49ers gonna thump us. Rams, Bucs, Bengals gonna thump us. So I wouldn't worry. Abysmal failure is still on the radar.

Darnold is better than Mayfield

If that is the Panthers playing for their head coach LMFAO

You are right.

Nah, man. Mayfield is so much worse than Darnold and Kyle Allen. He destroyed Beckham's numbers the same way. It is actually pretty crazy the Browns took him to the playoffs.

It is because Baker Mayfield sucks.

Great thread! If only Matt Rhule had been given 3 years to find a QB and fix the offense

Rookie Justin Herbert (2nd start) Kyler Murray (2nd year) Matt Ryan 2x (washed version) Matt Stafford (Lions version) Dwayne Haskins Rookie Zach Wilson (1st start) 2x Jameis Winston, including broken back Jameis Rookie Davis Mills (1st start) Colt McCoy

You are better than me I'm split-screening this with Bills/Dolphins and then I've got NFL RedZone on my laptop I love the Panthers, I do. But I love football and why would I want to watch a product I just know is going to be terrible?

Don't cuff yourself to this game, ya'll

There is no chance Rhule gets fired before Week 10 or so, regardless of our record. Rivera got fired around Week 12 or so, right? That is usually when teams fire head coaches, if they plan on doing it in-season. I think Rhule stays the season and then gets fired.

Baker Mayfield has looked absolutely terrible.

Baker Mayfield is absolutely terrible.

We are a poorly coached football team.

2-15

Fire Matt Rhule.

By the way, you ever find that post where I called them dominant or celebrated a 5-12 season yet?

LMAO Is this not the biggest cop-out ever seen on the forum? Guy makes a statement, gets called out for how BS it was, and then instead of admitting he was wrong, tells me that I have to explain and defend 12 games all for him to defend 1 (which he probably won't do anyway). You are hilarious, dude. Never change.

"2000 Ravens defense would have won it"

But the Giants isn't true. The defense wasn't at fault that game. And I literally just showed you why. So no, they aren't "one of several." But give it a shot. Explain to us how the defense was the problem that game. I would LOVE to hear that argument. All you do is spout BS. The only one who is reaching here is you, considering you have twisted my words on at least two occasions already in this thread. So if I am reaching, then go ahead. Tell me how the Giants offense put up "big points" on the defense and why it was the defenses fault. I gave you reasons why I didn't think it was on the defense and predictably, you didn't respond to any of them. So if I am reaching, then it should be pretty easy for you to counter, right? Also, why didn't you respond to me asking you for when I referred to the defense as dominant? Since you aren't reaching and I am, it should be pretty easy for you to find where I called them dominant or even great, right?

What an absurd statement. Giants didn't score their first touchdown until there was 59 seconds left in the 3rd quarter. The only other touchdown they was scored was late in the 4th after the Panthers turned the ball over on downs on their own 18 yard line. They also had a 53 yard field goal gifted to them after the Panthers punted and gave them the ball on their own 46 yard line. Giants only needed 19 yards that drive to get into field goal range. Panthers that game had 12 drives on offense. 1 ended in a safety. 1 ended in an interception. 2 ended in turnovers on downs. 7 ended in punts, including an astonishing 6 3 and outs. But yeah, the Giants offense "put up big points on us." I mean seriously dude, out of all 17 games, it was that game you tried to use to slam the defense lol?

You are such an idiot. Here you go twisting words again. Am I the only one around here who notices how much you consistently do this? Please show me one post, just one, where I referred to the Panthers defense as dominant. When have I ever made that assertion?