Carolina Disaster

Anything is possible but No!

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I hope Tepper has enough patience to stick with Reich and Fitterer through the season. Firing one or both will just set the franchise back even further. 

Totally agree here.  You have to give it time.  Frank may or may not wanted BY...doesn't matter now.  Work with what you got and figure it out best for the best or worst.

Terrible they can't figure out how to use his talent.

9 minutes ago, Captroop said:

You know, I meant to make that a sub-paragraph under the post, but totally spaced on it:

 

I believe the reason that we're not seeing the leadership out of Bryce is a result of the coaches trying to cover their asses.

I look at Bryce, and I see a teacher's pet who's getting special treatment, and I think the rest of the team sees that and resents Bryce for it.

I see them holding Bryce out for a phantom injury, and it was pretty damning footage when you saw Bryce coming into practice, lock step with Josh McCown, and none of the players seemed glad to see him.

I see Reich taking the blame publicly for "calling a play for Thielen when Thielen wasn't on the field," and everyone questioning, why the hell would he admit to that? To me, it looks like a coach taking the fall to cover for a rookie clock management mistake. I know I've seen that in the workplace where a manager took the fall for their pet, and it sure looked like that to me.

And all that goes back to the post above. The coaches feel like they HAVE to shelter Bryce and HAVE to cover for him, because investing the world in him was their call, and they need to save face rather than let Bryce take the lumps.

As a result, I don't think we're seeing the leadership, because right now, the players don't see a leader. They see a teacher's pet.

Bryce needs to make mistakes, and take the blame in order to earn the respect of the locker room. The coaches coddling him only makes that process harder.

I agree to some extent with the coaches but a coach can only utilize what he is working with.  Go back and look what Cam said to coaches his rookie season.  He challenged them and took control of the locker room.  Bryce hasn't.  He needs to.  Step up it's his team.  Make all the mistakes he has already but show some fire and leadership and I feel a lot better about it.

He is a professional Athlete getting paid millions.  He needs to do his job and lead this team, whoever they are, to the best of his ability.  We drafted BY because what we thought he was... cerebral, a leader, etc.... BY in addition to poor play has not shown real leadership or any trait we thought was worth the 1st pick in the draft.  Where is the fire in his belly??  Where has he showed real emotion in the huddle, on the side lines, in press conference???  Haven't seen it.  I hated the pick but the love the panthers, so I do want him to succeed but damn people tired of the excuses.  Just show us something....anything.  Or lets give him a participation trophy cause he shows up cause that's what we do nowadays.

You have to keep playing Bryce and see what you have and how he can develop.  We invested too much in to him at this point to go to Dalton.  Unfortunately it is what it is.  Lets see if he can improve and grow.

4 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I have a good feeling about tomorrow I do think we're gonna win. What I'm worried about is Fitterer and Tepper overreacting and thinking we're gonna contend this year then trading for some mid WR

Same.  Hope they stay put and don't make any stupid moves!

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Also hate to see Caleb Williams going to the Bears #1 via us.

 

#TheTepperWay

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Also hate to see Caleb Williams going to the Bears #1 via us.

 

#TheTepperWay

Agreed!  Hurts to think about it.

Panthers win this game tomorrow!

Hate to see Marvin Harrison Jr going to the Bears.  Dude is legit.

6 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Texas is my bet to win the Nat'l championship. Most complete team in football.

 

 

Nope

37 minutes ago, NAS said:

have you seen the routes they're running, and separation they're getting down the field?  

As far as the OL being injured, that points more to how poorly our OL depth is and how ineffective our blocking schemes have been

Do you think BY would be putting up similar numbers to Strouds if he was at Houston?  I just don't see it.

31 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Have you looked at Stroud's weapons and that they're missing nearly their entire starting OL. Stroud has been leaps and bounds better than Bryce very early in their respective careers. It just is what it is.

Totally agree here!  Stroud is exceling because of his arm strength, accuracy and ability to throw in to tight windows.  Hope Bryce gets there but it is what it is.

40 minutes ago, Samppson said:

Yeah, If we trade him, he will go elsewhere and never be injured again lol.

And win Defensive player of the year!

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

meanwhile, clinic

 

 

crazy how good he is as a rookie.

27 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I was always most excited about Brown and Evero. You are right Brown is being wasted right now.

Players still have to play.  Evero looks great cause we have the players on D.  Not sure Brown would have any different outcome than what we are seeing now on offense.  We don't have the players.

Benching him without benching him.  Bryce lovers call it a conspiracy.  If Dalton lights it up  just wait for this board to meltdown.

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

I don't think so, but Stroud is looking tempting though it's still very early.  I also had a draft crush on Stroud so I am a little bias here.

Hope Bryce proves us all wrong.  Take CJ and send our first in 2025.

22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is definitely not the offensive system I expected to see. This feels like a John Fox special.

I think you are seeing how the staff feels about our QB and what he can do right now.

54 minutes ago, BamaFan said:

Big Bama fan here not a Bryce fan. I watched this same thing from him at Alabama for 2 years. He has no deep ball accuracy so he can not keep defenses honest. Once defenses figure that out they just go after him. Last year his accuracy on passes more than 25 yards in the air was less than 30%. Why the media had Bryce kool aid all over there mouths for the last few years is beyond me

Feels like Sonny Weaver Jr got to Fitterer! 

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

He is just super limited. Out routes? Forget it. That's a pick six. Quick slants? Better be off play action and the LBs better bite. Deep ball? Just LOL. 

The guy can basically throw screens and drags. Everything else better be WIDE. ASS. OPEN.

He cant make the throws!!  we took the wrong guy!

Just now, Bigdaddy8523 said:

I wanted Stroud and I wanted to be wrong after we picked Young. With what I'm seeing in Bryce so far, if he doesn't improve quickly he will be broken. 

So agree with this!!

LOL!!  Sorry have to laugh!!  either mods are in bed after a drunk enraged 1st half or we have some weird censorship going on.  Yes I am still a little pissed about my thread getting locked.  lol.

3 minutes ago, CardiacCat said:

poor you......

 

Fair question

Just now, TheBigKat said:

I hate to say it but I agree with YOU

We could have had better!!