Bear Hands

Hard to believe the Clausen year was like 14 years ago. What is time.

The thing is, those runs show what type of team you have built and how they can bring out some good stretches for even the most faulty QBs. We had an alright team around Kyle Allen. It's too bad we hired Matt Rhule for the "rebuild" after that year, Luke retired, & they realized Cam was shot. It was just so much at once. Not to mention TD & Olsen peacing and letting Bradberry walk. That was our entire core. I don't mind we went out and got Bridgewater (didn't draft a QB immediately), but that's when you can't miss on draft picks. The Matt Rhule hire, and then the 2021 draft/offseason (missing on 9 of 11 draft picks, including Horn at 9, the Darnold trade, and more) was the biggest wrong turn we made in this death spiral.

Yeah. If there are limitations, they're going to be there inside the pocket or out. So might as well work on what you can correct fundamentally in-structure prior to a play breaking down (although I think he's at a point where he's simply too small/not enough physical tools). What I feel happened here is they saw this kid act like a mini-Mahomes, and were just like, alright this is working, just let him cook. And now, we see what happens when a 5'9 1/2 185 guy with a JP Losman arm and no pocket-awareness tries to play mini-Mahomes ball lol

I've accepted the jumping thing, erratic footwork, strange parallel to LOS drop is not going to end. It's part of his "technique". And it's the most damaging component to his entire game, as much as his size. For some reason, no coach wants to correct it because there's this notion that you can work with the backyard style to an extent and dropbacks and throwing motion doesn't need to be perfect. But Mahomes and a few others are exceptions to the rule IMO. He's the most compelling case that tells me this: the further you are outside of prototypical modern QB parameters, the more you actually need to execute IN-structure and have fundamentals/technique as sound as possible. This is why the biggest mistake coaches have made with him since HS is not getting him sound fundamentally while he learned to be all loose-y goose-y outside the pocket. This is also why Kyler can look bad, but not all the time. Because he's got a cannon, because he still has some burners. It's also why Russ has fallen apart. When you're not only an outlier physically/tools wise, but your game (at least in college) was best out of structure, then how do you expect to execute at a fundamental level in the NFL? You can't. You need to operate at a high level, in the pocket, and be fundamentally sound to execute and he simply can't do it.

Seeing this again, all I think is how f*cking tiny he looks in the pocket.

Joey Bosa & Khalil Mack are both healthy, playing together (which didn't happen a ton recently)...they accounted for 2.5 sacks last week. Gonna be a tall task for Icky.

What are we thinking?

Herbert over/under 300 yards? Over Bryce Young over/under 2 turnovers? Under, but he plays crazy conservative terrible Bryce Young over/under 200 passing yards? Under Score Predictions? Chargers 30 Panthers 6 Watching: Redzone/Sunday Ticket

Betting Odds: Currently -6.5 Chargers, O/U 39 Tickets: Stubhub is floating around $15 right now: https://www.stubhub.com/carolina-panthers-charlotte-tickets-9-15-2024/event/153077178/?quantity=2 Questions: Herbert over/under 300 yards? Bryce Young over/under 2 turnovers? Bryce Young over/under 200 passing yards? Score Predictions? -- How we feeling? Planning to watch? I'm planning on Redzone & ST Quad-Box (I will give us our opening drive on 1 in the quad)

Frown face

I don’t see many ads - not just saying that bc I’m a mod. And yeah, some of the larger general sports boards are still out there but even the largest boards there ever were have shuttered (I.e IMDB off the top of my head). Digital Third Space is simply occupied on other platforms these days. So I’ll double down to say it’s surviving past its expiration date off of who remains from the fan base of the worst team in the league that had two memorable stretches in the past 25 years. I imagine JI could’ve handed it off or shut it, but he keeps it open when it’s basically a hefty and unnecessary bill from Invision, so I find that pretty nice. Going to lock for now as I don’t see this going much further. Not hating on your thread, but let’s just try to make it fun while we can in here haha.

We are mostly the leftovers. A few fossils, some X, Millenial and older Z who did not migrate to reddit, discord or wherever the heck kids complain about their sport teams these days. Message boards are a dying breed. Enjoy it while it’s still here.

I like the interior OL, Brooks and Trevin. Rooting for JT and Legette to have success. Outside of those few, there’s not much else. No potential stud rusher, have no faith in Horn, no future secondary leader, no real top dawg WR, no stars.

Know your foe: They will destroy us. end

Therein lies I think the most fundamental problem with Bryce. He wants to play like a Mahomes, but his limitations don’t allow for it (size, speed, arm, quickness) and he should be playing like the lesser mobile guys who step up and take the hits (Purdue, Goff, Stanford, Carr). Problem is, the street style became second nature to him in school and he’s not shaking it out. But on the flip side, he also doesn’t have the body to take those hits consistently. So he’s kind of f’n screwed on both ends. Kyler works (sometimes, not even all the time) and Russ had his good years because they had escapability and the arm. Bryce doesn’t have that. So he’s a walking contradiction and I just don’t see a fit for him in the NFL much longer if I’m being entirely honest. No arm, can’t outpace DLs, can’t consistently see the field, terrible pocket presence, bad footwork, low energy, he legitimately has none of the traits you look for in a modern QB. Nice guy I’ll give him that.

It’s the Juan special. And it’s corrected

Reporters gotta ask Canales to really know. It depends on how much control they’re giving him and how much we have baked in. Stafford for example is given a ton of liberty to adjust and they seem to have designated receivers that are hot on given plays. If we’re still playing with kid gloves though, they may not be integrating this. And Bryce isn’t good at getting it out quick with his weird drop back so it may not be practical with him. Reich let Bryce do kills (2 play options) last year which had pretty brutal results. Overall, I imagine Canales has some sort of option for Bryce, audible or hots— a NFL offense should have some sort of blitz pickup built in. And he should’ve recognized it…I mean, we had the same CB blitz for 3 sacks lol. I dunno anymore, but it’s brutal to behold

I'm keeping this one open lol

Totally, seemed like a level-headed video. Not targeting him with my comments, speaking a bit more generally.

Who TF is Jayden Peevy? lol

We’re dealing with a newborn and turned it off after 15ish minutes so have only seen through highlights. Seemed like instances where he needs to make the call or timeout if there’s multiple unblocked defenders staring him right in the face. Don’t know what type of blitz protection we have built into our offense for him to call for but it was there for him to diagnose pre snap.

That’s not terrible for their ranks either. We gave him time, OL played well. Diontae and Adam were schemed open. Hell, Sanders, Mingo and Legette created some room at times. For at least 3 of the sacks, Bryce had the chance to work presnap and call protections and he just sat and took the snap. The QB is not sufficient.

I will say, it’s a bit cathartic in respect to how many “analysts” (aka random guys and failed QBs who think of themselves as these online gurus, dissecting all-22s like it’s their day jobs) look like idiots. I didn’t want Bryce to be awful but it was pretty annoying being told what we were seeing was somehow just due to environment and he was some ingenious QB. I wanted CJ but once it became obvious it was Bryce, I fully got on his train and drank the koolaid. But then it was pretty clear early on he was not cutting it and the veil that Bama produced was strong. Many just wanted to hold onto hope, don’t blame that, but the people trying so hard to dissect Bryce’s every play to spot the good and denigrate us criticizing were insufferable. This is some nasty kool-aid reflux. The fanbase needs some omeprazole pronto.

Amen. Jeans Day Friday and a massage IOUs compared to Snyder, Jones and Kraft. I mean, it’s all messy but JR was the least of the NFL’s worries. Owners just knew they could bully him out bc his son’s were the actual trash and there were no heirs…they easily pushed out of the least wealthy owners and let a big financial player into their club. All money driven just like the bs international crap. And believe me, my one big insider side of things is with NFL ownership and I know how they treated JR at owner’s meetings. He was the senile grandpa who had no idea what was going on and he was discarded. They made fun of him to his face without him even knowing. Imagine the press around Navarro and his daughter killing it in the tennis world too. They missed out going with this finance bozo Tepper who has no real gravitas or ability to build anything. He knows how to accrue and gain, but he’s not a builder.