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3 to 4 of them were pure Ys which are more valued by teams than a lot of other spots now. Everyone wants their own Jackson Hawes. 12 and 13 personnel is abundant. Chicago and JAX got very particular types. 12 personnel was run 25% league wide last year. Huge uptick in the last few seasons.

It’s just kind of done for him. But he won’t let it go. So he’s letting the pet die a slow death in the well he lured it into. I don’t think intentionally, he’s just moved on but he won’t sell. We were told an update was coming like 15 months ago but it didn’t happen. So just enjoy this thing for whatever it is as it slowly dies.

I don't feel like we need to be dead set on getting some stud at TE. Awesome if we develop or find one, but it's not something I'm endeared to. Just find weapons any which way you can and build a forward-thinking offense.

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It's too bad we can't really add new members anymore. Problem is this style forum gets spam accounts bombarding it and it hasn't been able to add new members for the last year plus. Felt a bit more quiet this draft not gonna lie.

I prefer to have zero expectations for a 7th but we'll see. In the past handful+ years, there's not much notable guys at LB outside of maybe Zaire Franklin & Kaeden Ellis when you're talking that late.

Oh yeah Ladd too. There's too many rock solid dudes in that pick 34-60 range from that class to make sense of it. Edge Cooper, Nubin, Sainristil...the list goes on.

We did not come away with one of the offball talents in this class so it seems Trevin is now given Year 3 to show what's up. We spent the 72nd pick overall on him two years back...he had some moments as a rookie, fumbled the bag last year. Looked pretty lost at times (some would say many times). Once he was shelved with an injury, Cherelus didn't look half bad. He started the final 4 and the Rams playoff game. Do we see a late FA signing? Or do you think this staff is putting their eggs in his basket for one more season? (Would be nice if a reporter would ask them a question about this). Or does Cherelus actually have the path to be paired as our starter with Lloyd? I get it that we were moving with the board and got who we valued. Just hope it pays off, there were some talented dudes at ILB in this class.

Can't keep pining for what never happened....but for god sakes, DeJean, Frazier... and we got this dude in a R1 trade up. The most notable blunder of this era, that's for sure.

Overall, fine. Wish we landed a guy to pair with Lloyd but I presume this means they're giving Trevin one final year to put it together (72nd overall 2 years back). Flashed potential year 1, had a dud last year. R1: Freeling LT - Great value and a need; landed our new long term LT that could end up starting off the bat. Icky had a terrible injury and is not playing in his contract year. Walker is what he is on a 1-year rental, who even knows how he fits. You get premier OTs early if you can find em' and he has what you want. I thought he could have gone as high as 6/CLE pre-draft, so am a big fan of the selection. Looking at this class, he's one of the guys at the top that is like "okay that's the LT". Others have this right/left or G/T type discussion about them. Freeling is an LT. R2: Hunter NT - We didn't really have anyone replacing A'Shawn's snaps in our rotation. Wharton & Brown aren't 3 downers so adding Hunter to the mix fills a big void. I dug deep into S and LB this draft so was a bit to zeroed in - I recognize the value and impact add in the trenches. R3: Brazzell WR - Intriguing. Given our history, I don't really want to place any expectations here, but a different style weapon for Bryce. I pretty much expect a WR drafted yearly with this regime. Other notables.. Hecht C - These are the type of rounds where starting centers have been found. We got a starter for this year, but Hecht seems pretty capable and I like it for a long term find. SOLID AF. Wheatley S - A pretty well regarded safety prospect. And we see it every year (like this one) safeties get hyped, people think they may go sooner than expected, and the league reminds them how it rolls. Plenty of nice safeties have been found in the 4th-6th in recent years. Big fan of Wheatley. Can't say I know enough about Lee or the others.

Wheatley is the pick I'm pretty stoked about. Size - Check Football IQ - Check Fundamentals - Check Comes from a big program - Check *Roamer - Can play two high, single high and slot *Notably has a balanced Pass/Rush D skillset. Not really deficient at either. - Surprised he was there but this was a loaded safety class. Hope we got one of the guys that rises to the top once we get to real games. Hope he kills it and we can have a bit of a rotation with him and Ransom in 5/6DB sets.

I'll be honest, haven't junkied into the draft this year. Elsewhere, there's some EDGE talent that are pretty interesting but would crowd our room...Keyron Crawford and Dennis-Sutton

Notables: LB: Hill Jr, Rolder, Elams-Orr, Lawson, Elliott DB: M-W, Haulcy, Kilgore, Abney, Scott The centers are all available WR: Brazzell and Bell are interesting.

This is a trench warfare draft and I can’t complain. I was too focused on DBs and LBs but we got great value and guys that will be contributing pretty darn quickly. Thought we were landing M-W or Allen but no sweat. This kid’s got game.

M-W, CJ Allen and Hill Jr all available…

Elams -Orr was one of the guys where there’s been word we’re all about. Could dig Haulcy and E-O for R2-3.

Hard keeping track this year but a brief day 2 outlook… There’s like 8+ defenders that could be starters if we play our cards right. Needs: Give Lloyd a partner, improve the full spine with our other 2-High roamer. CJ Allen ILB J Rod ILB Golday ILB Hill Jr ILB Stukes DB McNeil-Warren DB Haulcy DB Abney DB Who do y'all got?

It’s a good fit, great potential coming from a big school, and he’s a true LT. And let’s be real, on top of having a crazy injury, Icky wasn’t this completely stable piece. He improved no doubt, but he wasn’t some banger of a LT that was going to warrant top-5 positional second contract. There’s always been this idea he could be an all-pro guard, above average tackle. Rasheed Walker is a complete unknown and we really don’t know about Icky’s recovery looks like. The guys who just drafted Freeling know the most about Icky’s progress so this may be telling.

Let’s goo big uglies

The Thieneman to Minny thing is this locked in stone thing for so many bc of the Harrison Smith parallels but their DL needs major help. McDonald is hugely in play for them. And DB too if Hood or some are saying they’re highly preferential to Chris Johnson (sneaky 1st rounder). This draft could have plenty of surprises and it’s not hard to see DT falling to us.

Definitely. Texans, LAC, PHI (big candidate), there's some real possibilities.

Nice Verge. The outliers for me are Fanu and Proctor. Given how teams covet tackle, I don’t see how they make it out of the teens. But there are also only so many slots… Browns intel has been all about Freeling and Proctor ahead of Mauigua FWIW.

Unsure who you're talking about but I'll check him out - school/pos? Haven't seen that name pop up. Historically, we never get the WR or DBs I like so I'll stay cautiously optimistic haha. Sneakily love this DB class-- other notables being Stukes, K Scott, Abney, Ponds

I listened to him draft season last year and it convinced me McShay is one of the go tos a few GMs use for misinformation. His info last year was wildly off yet he claims he has direct FO intel. Examples being- The Jags were eyeing Jeanty (trade back bait), he went on-and-on about Jalon Walker as a top-5 pick and was convinced Dart was a Saint. Mason Graham was falling. Milroe was apparently a 1st. This draft may be just as unpredictable, if not more than last years.

I agree, he's a very good player. He wrote a nice piece the other day too; seems like a well put together dude. https://www.theplayerstribune.com/kc-concepcion-nfl-draft-ncaa-football-texas-a-m