Loyalty4Life

Hunter was always primed to be cut because he was not subject to waiver wire pickups. Another team could not claim him. Typical NFL move to not expose a young player with potential to waivers. This was always likely. We are no longer dependant on a 37 year old ageing vet WR who wanted out for this team to succeed. We are past that. Dan did play hardball. A 4th and 5th draft pick and we didn't take on any of his salary. What world is that not a steal? Cokers injury sucks as I do think he is going to be really good. Black cat curse is a bunch of BS.

Kicker with one leg fired after going 0 for 28 on field goals. Panthers are cursed.

Cool. Another Bryce can't throw deep derailment. Pushing the ball down field is not an issue. Throw that on the trash heap with all the other things Bryce has already proven wrong. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2025/01/09/panthers-qb-bryce-young-2024-season-stats/77587270007/

All this hysteria over arthritis. That might be the most huddle thing ever.

I've always said this from the start. Tepper has made 2 huge mistakes. Rhule and Reich. Im open to adding Fitt as well. Trusting his football people can be damning when you choose the wrong people.

Which one of those firings did you disagree with?

College coaches do a lot of stupid poo that doesn't work with full grown men who make more money than they do. I've long held the belief that Tepper has never been near the problem he's made out to be. He hired 2 horrible coaches and let their "football" mind make the decisions. You can trace most resulting mistakes to coaches desires.

No fans actually knows the condition of his knees. He missed 1 game due to his knee. Joe Person did an Atlantic article where he got quotes from Moton who explained it was a chronic conditions that most linemen deal with but the staff had a plan and it wasn't an issue. Joe saw a juicy quote he I could turn into a story. Chronic could mean he is bone on bone or it could just mean it gets inflammation easily. Most likely the plan will be more vet rest days and a constant plan of ice and anti inflammatories. Chronic means there isn't a cure, like a surgery. Nothing is broken. Make sure to rest it and ice it. Won't be much of an issue. If anyone has any further actual facts or quotes, please share but all of this comes from one missed game and Person's article. Person has been better with the Atlantic but most remember him as an out of breath local beat guy who asks a lot of leading it loaded questions.

People don't realize how much Evero likes a smaller nose tackle and a 3-4 end who can set the edge.

I did after getting tired of his incredibly bad Bryce takes. Don't know how it got cut back on. He's the huddle version of a flat earther.

Renfrow has said the Panthers are the only team he'd play for so this cut could just be an fancy way to get an extra roster spot. They can sign him back at any time whenever the first injury hits the team. It's also very possible they want to go young or that it was a special teams thing. I'm a big Renfrow fan and wish him continued good health. Would love to bring him back as a coach if his playing days are really over.

God speed. Get well soon.

I've shown you numerous comps for other tackles in the same age and talent range. His contract, taking into account his age, health, etc. is the going rate. It's a fair deal. I've shown you examples of how long it usually takes to find even an average replacement. Hell, look at every tackle that has ever started for the Panthers. How many would you consider a success? They are not easy to find. After everything we've done with this team since drafting Bryce why would we decide to let our best linemen go and add a huge question mark at tackle? FA is a crapshoot in which any guy available will have cons/issues. If not, they'll cost a fortune. Outside of a first or maybe 2nd round pic next year it'll take a few years for a tackle to learn the position at the NFL level. There are still questions about Icky. Every vet NFL player deals with maintenance. Between the contract value and history I'm not overly worried about his knee. I contend his knee issue isn't anything to be overly worried about. It's not zero risk but it's an acceptable risk. Every player we draft and every contract we sign has risk. You're blowing up his own negative words about his knees and ignoring him saying he is healthy and the knee is a non issue. You have a strong chicken little complex with this team. Being he has always been a Panther they are very aware of any health issues. We paid now because now is cheaper. If his knee was really an issue they would have waited. That tells me it's not the issue you want it to be.

In your opinion. What do you think Moton's true value in contract, dollars and guarantees? If we had not extended him, what is your plan for RT in 27 and 28? How important are good offensive linemen for our current offense? How much value do you put on protecting Bryce at this stage of his career? How difficult in general do you think finding above average tackles in the NFL is?

I can see and agree with your point here but the money from restructures is a sunk cost. New money being less than average for a player of his quality was a win for the front office. Getting almost all of it guaranteed is a win for the player. The whole deal is just smart football. He is as healthy as any other vet high end tackle with a history of being on the field. There's plenty of risk but that is the case with every NFL contract. The pros greatly outweigh the cons with the only two cons I can see if the guaranteed money being high and he's not a spring chicken. Both valid worries but his ability, character, play on the field, salary, and not having to watch Bryce run for his life are worth those risks IMHO.