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5 hours ago, dldove77 said:

Would anyone here be satisfied if someone else signed him to a long-term deal and we settled for the two first round picks?

Edit: I should answer my own question, I guess.

If Josh could get the money he wants and we could get two firsts, I think I'd be okay with it. Tough to lose a talent like him, but that's life. And he won't get franchised again. I'd rather get something for him than just a potential compensatory pick.

Honestly, i think this is the best case scenario. I'd be ecstatic 

Jake Long anyone?

God should have told him to hand the ball to lynch.

I wasn't talking about the Hardy situation. I was generally addressing all the white knights that continue to perpetuate this idiotic idea that there is no situation where it is acceptable to put hands on a woman.

Okay fine. I'll take that back. If there is a 240 lbs woman trying to kill me, I'll do what I can. I can't imagine a realistic situation where I would put bruises on a woman I was dating.

What are you talking about? I calculate that if someone is coming at you with a knife and you can't get away and you're unwilling to physically defend yourself, you're gonna get fuged up.

I'm sorry. I missed the point in the 911 tape where he said, "she's trying to stab me with a knife." I thought he said, "she hit me with with a shoe, I don't need medical attention."

I really, really wish all the white knights would give up on this broken logic. It's fair to say that it is only acceptable in rare, extreme cases, but it's not hard to imagine a situation where I would find it very acceptable to lay hands on a woman. Crazy chick coming at me with a knife screaming she's gonna kill me? Yep, she's getting knocked the fug out and I'm not gonna feel one bit of remorse about it.

It's not broken logic. Every fight I've ever been in as been calculated. You're thinking or you lose.

but that analogy doesn't help your point...

That's fine. My point is this... There is no reason to lay your hands on a woman. None. Ever. I don't believe this happened as accused. I'm also not willing to call a potentially battered woman a liar until I know the facts. I've seen "domestic violence" cases (which can be something as simple as a broken window) where the woman is arrested because the man in the situation did the right thing.

The tape does help Hardy, but I can call 911 right now and say President Obama is here trying to kill me and a cop will show up. I'm not convicting Hardy. He's one of my favorite players, but I'm withholding judgment. If half of what is accused is true... I don't want him on the team.

Yeah in the case of domestic violence cases everytime I have ever seen the police come the guy was arrested. Doesn't matter who was at fault. They will 9 times out of 10 take the guy to jail for the night.

Not true.

@lukejones78

We play a horrible horrible team and still managed to fug it up. Fire Rivera, make Shula or McD interim head coach, call the season a wash and move on.

I know "fire Rivera" threads are a banable offense, but can we start one and just keep that one going? I'm over this poo.

I know "fire Rivera" threads are a banable offense, but can we start one and just keep that one going? I'm over this poo.