LinvilleGorge

Since we drafted Bryce we have... Drafted two 1st round WRs including a top 10 pick. Drafted two 1st round OTs including a top 10 pick. Signed two huge money OGs. Drafted another 3rd round WR. Signed a RB to a top 10 RB contract at the time. And people really want to talked about how we haven't done enough to surround this guy with talent? GTFOH...

The Bengals approach OL like we did during Cam's career. Ah, we don't need that poo! Spend it all on D (our case with Cam)! At least they give Burrow crazy elite receivers but it's hard to throw when you're flat on your back.

Top 10 QB production. I know all the physical limitations. Show me you can overcome them.

No thanks. I'll keep Walker. Freeling may not be ready to start day one or we may run unto OL injury issues. I want no excuses for Bryce. I'll take a strong OT group over trading for a backup DT from the worst rushing D in the NFL and the 2nd to worst overall D. Be honest, if his name wasn't "Kris Jenkins Jr." this would cross nobody's mind.

I'm surprised it took the league that long to realize if they just stacked the box to stop Rico that Bryce couldn't beat them with his arm. He still managed to average nearly 5ypc and rush for more than Bryce threw for against Seattle when Bryce threw for 54 yards with a playoff berth on the line. 54 fuging yards.

We would've picked top 10 this year if Rico hadn't had that stretch where he caught fire.

Huntley signed for 2 years/$11M but only $3.5M guaranteed. Tyrol Tayor and Sam Howell signed for $2.5M. We gave Kenny fuging Pickett $4M fully guaranteed.

I just wish we'd signed a competent backup. Pickett sucks and is as noodle armed as Bryce. Giving him $4M to pretend he's a legit backup was absurd. I wanted to sign someone who could legitimately push Bryce and give us someone to legit pivot to mid-season of Bryce needs benched again. The Panthers gave Pickett $4M to pretend he's that knowing full well he's not. That was a disappointing development.

Good. Make him earn it on the field. He needs to be considerably better than he's been to even consider it. If he isn't, then his 5th year option needs to be spent fighting for his job against the QB we take in the top 10 next April.

Facts. Rico caught lightning in a bottle and looked like one of the best players in the league over a five game stretch. We were 4-1 over that stretch. Rico still averaged almost 7ypc in that loss to the Bills but only had 8 carries because we were getting boat raced. He rushed for 100+ yards three times. We were 3-0 in those games. Rico ran for a combined 519 yards over those three games. Bryce threw for a combined 499 yards over those same games. With a playoff berth on the line we went 1-3 over the last four weeks of the season. Bryce threw for over 200 yards only once in that stretch bottoming out in that disaster against Seattle where he only managed 54 yards in the second to last game of the season.

It wasn't a his sack production, it was about his skill set, build, and scheme fit. He's a six foot tall 280 pound DT. He's best used as an interior pass rushing specialist. He can't play the nose in a 3-4 and he doesn't have the length or burst to play he end either. He just wasn't a scheme fit. He'd be a good roster piece as a rotational pass rushing specialist DT to bring in on passing downs in an even defensive front. But you can't hand out a 3 year/$45M contract for that either. Tha type of contract means you have to try to find starter snap numbers for him and that's a problem in a 3-4 front. Hell, it's a problem in a 4-3 front too. That's why the Chiefs were willing to let him walk.

For the record, most of the loudest Bryce critics were also among the loudest Cam supporters. So... WTF are you talking about other than just wanting to dismiss views you don't like with unfounded accusations to avoid having to argue your point?

Yeah, I'm still not completely sold on Caleb but I'd take him over Bryce all day everyday and every other NFL team would too, including the Panthrs though they can never admit it since they effectively gave the Bears a ton of roster building capital while handing them the pick that eventually became Caleb Wiliams.

We ranked 15th in the NFL last year in drops. Roughly middle of the pack. So Bryce wasn't helped by over performing receivers or held back by butter handed receivers either. The Bears led the league in drops and Caleb Williams threw for over 900 more yards than Bryce

65 yards more per game is huge. He needs to basically improve his production by a third to match what Darnold did last year. That would be Bryce leaping from 27th in the NFL in passing yards per game (bottom tier starting QB) to 9th in the league (top 10 QB production). What you're asking for is a new QB because it's not a realistic expectation for a 4th year player with serious physical talent limitations to make that type of leap.