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Panthers sure do telegraph their picks. Charlie Campbell 6 in a row despite having the 33rd pick

We kept 33 lol Edit: NM. they were slow to change

Second time Roger has slurred his words

5 QB's in the top 10, history says 3 bust at least, likely 4. These teams playing with fire

I would gamble with Barton or Frazier at 33, Cooper or Wilson at 39, and use the 3rd and later picks to trade up to the 2nd again and take whoever falls out of Franklin, Ladd, Pearsall, or Legette in that order. Three starters.

History says 3 out of the top 5 QB's taken will bust and definitely one of the top 3. If you're Minnesota would you rather have JJ McCarthy and lose 2 other firsts or Nix and have 2 extra firsts? Makes no sense to me

And? So they hit only Kupp and Nacua out of all the WR's they drafted in the last 10 years? So did we I guess? (Moore and Benjamin before he gave up his 4th year in the L) Doesn't change my stance that scouting and drafting WR's are heavily based on getting lucky. The only teams that you could say are above average at drafting WR talent are the Seahawks and Steelers, and even then they draft plenty of busts as well. (Sammie Coates, James Washington, Chase Claypool to name a few recently)

Drafting a WR is a total crapshoot and based on luck. 1 in 5 work out. No amount of NFL Scouting or a talented front office can change that. The Rams got lucky with Puka Nacua, its not like they are elite in scouting and better than everyone else. I mean they just took Tutu Atwell in the 2nd and Jacob Harris in the 4th and both likely won't be reupped when their contracts run out. Same with QB's. Its why there doesn't need to be so much freaking time between the SB and the NFL Draft. You could hold the NFL Draft at the end of March and teams don't know any more poo than they do now.

I'm well aware of our sucky pass catchers. I should have clarified. No room to develop two rookies along with trying to develop Mingo and ISM. No way we keep three first and second year receivers on the active roster and expect them to produce. Now maybe a flyer on someone in the 5th or later, but double dipping in the 2nd is stupid and it means you are giving up on Mingo basically who we just drafted with a high 2nd last year.

Darin man get a haircut

No room to take two WR's IMO, with Mingo and ISM locked up for next year. We need the center, LB, CB, or edge more.

Thielen will be fine if we had two other receivers that drew coverage. He's a 3rd and 4th down chains mover at this point in his career

From Campbell: " Some team sources said they think there could be more trade movement in this year’s draft compared to typical years. They shared they believe this movement could start in the middle of the first round, stretch into late in Round 1, and then continue throughout the second day of the 2024 NFL Draft. The reason for the expected fluidity is teams feeling there is a lack of talent on Day 3 of the draft thanks to the influence of NIL in college football and more players getting paid to stay in school. That has weakened the talent depth of the draft, leaving teams believing that third-day picks have less value. Some sources from playoff teams felt that there is a good chance that the players they would get on Day 3 of the 2024 NFL Draft would have a very hard time making their final 53-man roster, so rather than use the pick on a player who is likely to get cut, they could use the pick to move up in the early rounds. This year’s draft has the potential to be one with a lot of trades, starting on the opening night of the draft." I've always been under the idea that 5-7th round picks are worthless and should be used to trade up. Especially for the Panthers UDFA's have the same or better impact than 5-7th round picks

I think this is postering to get AD Mitchell to fall and another team interested in Legette But the Panthers have typically telegraphed their moves, shown over multiple front offices, so unless he goes earlier Legette is likely the pick

I don't think the centers last to 39, but several WR's will be there. Just makes too much sense to take one of the top centers at 33

Charlie has called the last 7 Panthers first round picks correct, including us taking Horn when almost no one else even considered that. Obviously 33 is a bit different because there are 32 picks ahead and random variables with trades up, etc. But he has us taking Xavier Legette at 33. Which suggests the noise around the Panthers and Legette is real (unfortnuately)

Why on earth would we trade a starting level talent at 39 for two developmental special teamers at 54 and 85

Frazier is my draft darling. 10 year starter from day 1 and can anchor the line. We need him so bad that I'm sure we'll pass on him twice

charlie campbell who is usually very well in tuned with the panthers even through owner and GM changes has us targeting a WR and CB in the 2nd round. So its not far off, however I would hate passing on one of the top 3 centers in this class when we have the opportunity to make our interior OL super solid

Ladd at 33, Zach Frazier at 39. Perfect draft I think Ladd will bulk up. I know that's his biggest weakness, but he just is always open like Puka Nacua. We desperately need a player like that and if Dionte Johnson has a good season, that should give Bryce three targets in the mid range Frazier has a chance to be the best center IMO and should start from day 1. Just super solid technique and with added power/strength in NFL conditioning no reason why he can't be Ryan Kalil. Also would accept JPJ and AD Mitchell. Not too high on Worthy or Legette, but if available in the 3rd I would think about it.

I think its so obvious that we go C and WR in the 2nd round. The fits are just too good. Corbett and Brady can swing and provide depth. At least that is what I would do if I were in charge. If Bryce stinks then the offense should be in good shape next year for #1 pick/Dak/whatever route they go. I'd rather get the offense really good first than try to focus on both sides of the ball at once. Like what the Chiefs and Lions did

Why did the Texans go after Mixon and Diggs and other improvements? "the lengths they will have gone to, to help him" ? Flawed argument. Out of 8 billion people in the world every single person except for 1 (Mahomes) need their teams to go through lengths to help him On the #9 pick, you knew what I meant. Most teams trade 2 future firsts to move up that far or get a QB. We didn't. That is the saving grace.

While I agree with your premise of an elite TE making the offense so much easier, the chances of a drafted tight end being elite are extremely low. This team has too many holes to be gambling on a 2nd round tight end. Any tight end that isn't elite can be had in free agency for cheap.

I think we draft WR and OL in round 2, then depending on who's there in round 3, either draft another WR or sign a free agent WR to fill out the roster. No need to sign him now

I feel like the optimists admit mistakes far more than the pessimists admit they were wrong. If Bryce has a really good season next year, you'll have a lot of the posters that trash him every post - and they know who they are - pretend like they never said anything or just make a new account because they don't want to save face The truth is, the jury is still out on Bryce. In a season of bad he made some great throws, zipped some touchdowns in tight windows, had some long drives, and had several clutch 4th down throws, but those posters pretend like he didn't show a single NFL skill for the sake of their Colin Cowherd-level hot takes. Thankfully we didn't trade two firsts and if Bryce is just as bad we have our first next year.