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LOL, yeah I can assure you no one around here has given me any slack with my opinions. Regardless, I appreciate the flak!

I remember him talking about was how slow Theilen was - over and over and over. Never could understand why he disliked him so much.

Panthers win a tough one. Think Cowboys type victory.

Yes, he was consistently throwing it in front of them instead of behind like he has in the past lol

I do think some of their success was from Canales putting them in position for YAC. I didn't give him enough credit in the OP but he called a really good game.

Cokers first catch was IMPRESSIVE!

No doubt Young had a great game but a big part of that success was because of his receivers (and by receiver I mean anyone who caught a pass). Young passed for a record 458 yards but 250 of those yard came after the catch so he had a lot of help. Tremble turned a 5 yard pass into a 54 yard reception putting them into FG position for the win Dowdle took a 3 yard pass and turned it into a 32 yard reception putting them in position for a TD pass from Young to TMac TMac took a 15 yard dig route and turned it into a 39 yard gain. Legette took a 5 yard pass in the flat and turned it into a 20 yard reception. More importantly, he ran a go route and unlike the previous week where he made a half hearted, feeble attempt at catching it, he extended out and grab it for a 37 yard TD reception this time. Cooker only had 5 passes his way but caught every single one averaging 13 yards/catch and he caught the 2 point conversion. Evans caught a 25 yard pass on a 3rd down. Sanders caught a 10 yard pass on a 4th - 4. Again, Bryce played a great game. He was poised, looked comfortable and more importantly, consistency made the correct read to exploit the defense. But the receiver group played just as well and I would argue made him look great. I am a Bryce Young fan and have gotten a lot of slack around here for attributing some of his struggles to the receivers youth and lack of experience. Not today - they were fantastic and I just wanted to make sure they got the recognition they deserved.

For what it's worth, Young had 3 INT's his first 2 games (1.5/game) but has only had 3 in his last 7 (.42/game). Last season, Young had 3 in his first 2 ( 1.5/game) and then only 7 in the last 11 (.63/game). Basically what I am trying to say is his numbers are skewed with his early struggles. And for whatever it is worth, he also struggles early in the games: 5 of his INTs have come in the first half of games, only 1 has occured in the second half.

I won't disagree with any of that.

I said the conservative play calling was because Canales doesn't think we can win shootouts. Yes, I did say part of that was because of the young, inexperienced receivers and that the OL is better suited for run blocking. I should have also included Young as part of the reason as well but I was responding to the post concerning "young receivers" and Thielens' absence. I am not so enamored with Young that I think all his problems are simply because of the receivers. I do think they overpaid for him and he has not lived up to the cost. He has had his struggles, as does pretty much every rookie qb thrown into a bad situation. But I have seen enough good things to have hope that he continues to get better. The OP is just pointing out how his performance late in the games when the game is on the line is one of those good things.

You are putting words in my mouth.

So do you think having inexperienced receivers and Thielen being gone affects Youngs' performance negatively?

I posted this already but: I think the short passes (conservative play calling) is more a product of Canales' knowing they are not going to win many shootouts. The receiver are too young and inexperienced and the OL is built more for run blocking than pass blocking.

Can you give me examples of why you believe he "tried" to open the offense but couldn't? I think the short passes are more a product of Canale knowing they are not going to win many shootouts. The receiver are too young and inexperienced and the OL is built more for run blocking than pass blocking. Make no mistake about it, I give a ton of credit to the OL and Rico. Just because I illustrate how well Young played in crunch time does not mean I do not recognize everyone elses contribution.

He did...but he also got them out of it. As far as his opinion on Young, that's all speculation on yours' and others around here part.