cranky

I'm reading the post here and for the most part am lmao at ya'll, but after watching Strouds' video, I have to say I agree, he looks like he's about to cry. He may be done.

This

He just drove them down the field for a score and there is plenty of time to do it again. You know saying things like that make you look like an idiot right.

Simple - Just win.

In the 4th qtr after the score was 42 - 6. He sure wasn't benched to give the Panthers a chance to win so saying he was benched is misleading.

You don't pull Stroud. Watch him come back. It ain't over.

You do remember we played them right. Bryce had 1 TD and 0 INTS with an 84 rating. And that was with TMac with his total of 4 NFL starts, Tremayne who was brought in from someones practice squad and XL with his 50% catch rate - no Coker.

Exactly

I understand. I remember the debates about Cam so know this isn't an isolated event.

o ye of little faith

LOl not schizo (although my wife may disagree). Just tired of starting off having conversations about Bryce that aways seem to go sideways and wind up in a pissing match. I've decided it's not worth it. I know you guys have your opinion and I'll never change it so why even try. That does not mean I will not jump in a conversation to debate particular points. I still feel the same way about him today as I always have. I've just learned there are certain things not worth debating/argueing about.

I said there are three groups. How is that looping everyone together?

Like I said, I think the 4th was a good call and good play. Should have been a completion. Betweeen the Saints with game bad call on TMac and the Buccs game with bad calls swinging 6 points their way, I am not surprised they didn't get that holding call. The Panthers have just been on the wrong side of calls for most of the season for whatever reason.

I can't tell you what other's expect from him before they will start believing in him. I think for some, they will never be able to overcome his size. I think that is the fundemental problem for them which means they will never be happy with him behind center. For others, it seems he will have to be in the top 10% in pretty much every catagory and do that all seaon for them to start believing in him. Not everyone of course. There are people on this board that, while have doubts, can still acknowledge his good plays and are willing to give him another season. Those folks I would assume just want consistency - and wins. I could be off on all the above but that's kind of how I see it. And while you didn't ask, I will say I'm glad they picked up his 5th year option. He earned it. I do not think he should be signed to a long term contract yet. I do think he will develope in a franchise QB and will get the Panthers back into the playoffs and win them but I know I could be wrong. Next year will be the big test. If the offense continues to improve and they get back to the playoffs because of the offense, it will be time to sign him long term. If it's a repeat of this year, then it's time to look elsewhere for a QB. Like I said though, I believe he can be the guy so would be surprised if he doesn't make it.

I agree that it is disapponting that nothing went their way on the first three downs and I do not know if it's because of the play calling, the pressure on Bryce or Bryce just missed them. I just think the last call was a good call. Horn got open and the pass was there. He just dropped it. Terrible time for his first drop of the season but again, he had made a 4th down catch earlier so there was no reason to think he couldn't scatch it.