philit99

Yep and I don’t like drafting quality prospects and waste them on shitty coaches. We need both and a seasoned veteran coach don’t grow on trees, so I would rather give up a few prospects now and be in a better position to coach next years class.

This is the key. It takes rookie players 1-2 years to get up to speed in the NFL. If we give up 2, firsts we will feel it in years 2-4. Meanwhile, if we present the possibility of challenging for a Lombardi trophy some veteran players will chase that. Losing draft picks sucks, but you can navigate around it. You can’t navigate around having a clueless and lost head coach that wastes the talent they have on their roster. Coordinators with 1-2 years experience will need time to learn and adapt to situational football, time management, roster moves, and team moral. So do we want to compete now or in 2025-2026?

Great point and I’m not sure the PSL sales and current stadium atmosphere could take another 3-5 years. I’ve been to almost all the Panther games, and the SF game may have been the worst I have ever seen in that stadium. I believe it is why Rhule was fired. There is only two ways to get asses back in seats, either become a snake oil salesman and provide artificial hope, or hire the candidate with the highest probability for success and generate buzz and excitement.

Mainly it means that previous coaches were not doing their job and we have a decent team. If we get a player or two we could become competitive. Sean Payton is a competitive guy, same for Jim Harbaugh. It is why they both wanted this job, higher probability of success. Both have huge egos that need stroking.

I’m not arguing value, I am just stating that Mayer will be gone before any other TE, and more than likely 12-20 range.

Mayer is a generational TE, he will be gone in the teens and could go top 10.

Wow heart breaking to see that.

Man Chatfield has really stepped his game up.!

Just think team we have about 3 more days of interviews. I wouldn’t mind having a look at Brian Callahan as well, at least he has 4 years of experience and not just the 1 or 2 that Shane Steichen or Mike Kafka have as a coordinator. Who knows how this will end.

That is what the media wants. Unless Payton doesn’t board the plane, Tepper will have an opportunity to hear Payton’s plain to fix this team. Everything is conjecture, unless it is reported that he will not meet Tepper. Furthermore, it is in Payton’s own best interest to meet the Panthers in order to create competition for his services.

Same, may as well keep Wilks and try again in a year or two. It is the best option.

By “safe” I mean no 2-3 learning curve on how to manage the clock, down and distance, the locker room, etc. By “safe” I mean a candidate that has experience. Is he exciting, no, will he put asses in seats, no.

Because just like us, he is a safe hire, that more than likely will not excite their fan base. I believe Wilks can be very successful, but not exciting. The goal for the panthers is not just winning, but get the fans back in the stadium. Management may think the only way to do that is a big hire. This is as much about selling PSL’s as it is about securing wins.

Wow that is some serious conjecture. Tepper isn’t a joke, quite the contrary. He is however learning on the job. Rhule did fleece Tepper, but Stafford made the right decision for Stafford and it wasn’t disrespectful. I’m thankful everyday we did not land Watson. I think the Panthers have a chance with Payton, but in the end it comes down to where Payton wants to go. Inside word is that the broncos did not even discuss compensation during their interview, let’s see if Tepper can make the right pitch about the organization, community, and where the team wants to go. Otherwise, it is back to another rookie head coach and another 2-3 year learning curve.

The broncos have been chirping all afternoon that they have him in the bag. I call BS, but one never knows.

Which is why I believe we might have been instructed to interview him, since Tepper and new management are unfamiliar with Fangio.

Boy that would be shitty. Hire a young coach and not let him pick his staff. Stranger things have happened. I think Fangio was brought in for Payton exclusively.

I believe the last line is the motivating factor, regardless of what is said publicly. These guys have egos and I am positive Payton would want to prove his previous employer wrong.

I understand that, but when was the last time Payton had a full draft to work with, and how have most of Payton’s picked turned out? He is great at making chicken salad out of chicken poo.

92.67% Payton, 3.1% Reich, 4.23% Other. Understand, Payton is the broncos number 1 option. They think Payton is coming here, it could all be BS, but all signs are pointing Payton to us.

They would have to eat it, and you know they would not, so we would have to help pay some of it.

Have you seen his contact? It is insane, 99 million in dead cap space.

Yep I think we are all getting those vibes. However, this is the Panthers and things can change in a flash, ask Ben Johnson.

He very well could be a coach one day.