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If Moss and TO don't get in on the 1st ballot... then it's going to make even damn harder for WRs to get in.  Those guys are easily statistically the #2 and #3 WRs behind Rice.

All 3 of those bastards also had great QB play their entire careers... as have guys like Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.

What's going to be really unbearable is when Wes Welker's ass starts getting HOF consideration, because he played with Brady and Manning literally his entire career.

He's still got a ways to go to top Bruce, but he's already passed Holt.

If Steve can put up 2 more 1,000 yard seasons then he'll be up there with Bruce... but then again, Bruce has the ring over him... and will likely still lead him in TDs as well.

I think Amini at LT and stonewalling Kony says more about Kony than it does Amini.

I hated the Kony pick, and he was complete ass last year.  Yeah, he got better towards the end of the season and he was just a rookie... but he just looked completely overwhelmed.  I'm not really expecting much out of him while just hoping for the best.

This.  I never got the problem that a few had with Ron saying what he did.  It's not even like he said anything malicious... all it did was give KB an extra nudge to shut people up motivate him to work harder before the start of camp.  Seems to have worked.

Sorry Jeremy, but I have no idea how you think Frank won that one.

Let's just say we add in a second to adjust from the start of the vine, where they're pretty much already engaged, to account for the snap of the ball and Frank reaching Oher... and Oher stays in a front of Frank for a healthy 5 seconds, at least.

If there were pads, Oher's head and back would've never snapped back like it did here.  He gave Cam more than enough time to do what he needs to do.  If Frank sacked Cam there then it's on Cam and the receivers..

I have no fuging idea why, but I had an irresistible urge to pie this as soon as I saw it.

Good ole Joe Person

Tweeting a play 20 minutes after it happened

People have gotten too impatient with Cam because how good he was right out the gate.

Does no one remember how we pretty much accepted the fact that he was going to be a bit of a project when we drafted him?  That he was a project with huge potential.

Then his rookie season happens, and it's like everyone completely forgot all of that.  As good as he was out the gates, and is now, he's still that same project we drafted back in early 2011 that's been learning on the fly.  He's made huge strides as a pocket passer, and is continuing to get better.

What Gettleman said is 100% correct.

Wheelin' and dealin', baby

Super Bowl here we come

Now we just sit back and wait for some manufactured drama about how Martin was bullied into retirement.

Well he did us a favor then instead of trying to sit around and collect a check for nothing.

Not sure how that's all that relevant to what I said, unless you're just wanting to build up a straw man just for the sake of arguing.

Someone mentioned Cam played an amazing game.  I added onto that by somewhat agreeing saying he was pretty good other than those two interceptions - and that both of those interceptions were really bad.  Go and look at the All-22 of both plays.  I'm not talking about the the two teams, how they're built, or what Seattle's offense was doing to our defense... just solely Cam's performance.  Both of those interceptions were entirely avoidable because he had open guys on both of them.

When you have a wide open man, who is your #1 receiver at that, wide open 20 yards downfield... and you instead elect to throw it into tight coverage against arguably the best CB in the game that's not "taking a chance", that's just a bad play no matter how you try to look at it.  I love Cam and all, but those two plays were costly in a game where we needed as much help from our offense as we could get.  We could've gotten points out of both of those drives, and in the pick 6's case, kept Seattle from getting an additional 7.

Lmao, he's probably the toughest person on their whole team.

Okay, let me try to say this even clearer.  KB was wide open.  A 20+ yard wide open pass isn't dinking and dunking.  He didn't have to try Sherman... Sherman was all over Philly.

I really hate that reasoning, especially in a game like football where every possession counts, even more so for a playoff game where it's win or go home... every possession is huge.  Especially against a defense like Seattle, where your scoring opportunities are going to be limited to begin with.

Yeah, it was like a punt, but it was definitely something to worry about when you have a wide open KB for 20+ yards in the middle of the field.  Who knows?  Maybe if he doesn't throw that INT and instead finds KB, maybe we eventually turn that drive into a TD.

I rewatched that game, along with the All-22 not too long ago...

Cam played a pretty damn solid overall game, but that INT against Sherman, and the pick 6 against Kam were two REALLY big fug ups on his part.  Yeah, everyone can bitch about Bersin being the first read and whatever else, but the fact is he had two wide open targets on both those plays.  KB was wide open for about a 20 yard gain on that Sherman INT, and someone (can't remember who exactly) was wide open on that pick 6 just within arm's reach of a first down.  There were a lot of times where Ed Dickson was open for a big play too that we didn't capitalize on IIRC.

Other than that though, he played pretty damn good everything else considered... Seattle just absolutely punished us for every mistake we did make that day.

Dan Morgan is probably already trying to convince the Seattle brass to dump Wilson and go after Vick.

Man, I remember how hyped I was for the 2012 season after that 2011 one they did.

Apparently Kalil was too... taking out the fuging front page ad out for a Super Bowl guarantee.

Lol I just don't get why he scoffs at a deal similar to Cam and Ryan's contracts.  That would be a good deal for both sides.  Even more so for him, because he gets a nice big contract that shows the team is committing to him, all the while staying on a loaded team that has their other key guys locked up as well.

He legitimately wants somewhere in the $25+ million range... which would be fuging absurd for him.

And fug Irvin, the sooner they get rid of him the better - unless he goes to somewhere in the division.

That SOB always has our number every time we play them.

Ah yes, the great JaMarcus Hustle

How fuging awesome and hilarious would it be if that was what killed the Seahawks.  A JaWalrus 2.0 situation.

Russ coming into the season fuged up on purple drank, talking about how God told him to lead his drug dealers to prosperity or some poo

That's why he wants all that money

He's about to JaWalrus Russell their asses

I really don't like the precedent this little fuger is trying to set either.  Sure, it's funny to laugh at the Hawks for now, but this baseball type negotiation bullshit needs to stay in baseball.

Lol I liked this quote

It's not that Wilson wants to hit free agency, according to a source who has spoken with him. It's that he wants to be paid as if he did. Meanwhile, thoughts of a fully guaranteed contract have not left his mind, especially with an agent who regularly negotiates such deals with baseball players.

So, Wilson doesn't want to leave the Hawks... he just wants "free agent type money" AKA Raider type money, all the while he still gets to stay on by far the best team in football.

This dude is a straight up clown.  Can't have your cake and eat it too, Russ.

Sorry.  I respect your opinion, but that's just false.  I've seen Cam take over games multiple times in his career, and when I say take over, I mean him becoming a literal one man offense.  Meaning, he absolutely has the ability to do so.  Hell, even in basketball , just because you take over a game doesn't mean you're going to win despite star players having much more influence in individually winning games.  Look at LeBron.  Look at Jordan's 63 against the Celtics.

Now notice I didn't say he takes over games and we get away with the win.  There's been multiple times (actually most the time... because no player can single-handedly win a football game.  None at all) where we still lost, even with Cam doing nearly everything you could possibly ask your QB to do - mainly his first 2 seasons.  Breaking would be sacks behind the line, converting impossible looking 3rd downs to keep a drive alive, being the entire running game, methodical long drives to keep the defense and special teams off the field, and he's had his moments where he can look like an absolute surgeon.  When he's doing all that in succession, there's not much of an answer for him.  As good as Ryan, and even Brees, are... they simply can't threaten an entire defense in the same way.  When a traditional QB's line, running game, and receivers are all failing him in a game, they're screwed.  Cam still has the ability to make chicken salad out of chicken poo on occasion.

I also wasn't limiting it to just the past two seasons (one of which he was hobbled as fug most the year).  I'll admit he's been asked to do less in the offense for the most part the last two seasons due to us investing so heavily in the defensive side, but hell, even in 2013 when we had that great defense, he still had his moments.  It definitely isn't the best example from his career, but the Patriots MNF game is one instance from the 2013 season.  If you just look at the stats, you wouldn't agree, but you had to watch the game.  It wasn't a high-scoring game, but that's because both teams played the exact same style of long methodical scoring drive offense.  It was a low-scoring (24-20) shootout.  Nearly every drive in that game was a scoring drive... just long as hell scoring drives.  Brady and Cam went nearly the entire 2nd half without an incompletion IIRC.