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1 hour ago, MechaZain said:

Why is it so hard to accept that Reich just can't coach? There doesn't have to be a conspiracy behind it. Indianapolis knew.

Doesn't even make sense. If Reich didn't want him why protect him with that Fisher Price ass playbook? He could have just drawn plays without any regard for Bryce's ability and let the kid embarass himself if he couldn't execute.

Everyone that still thinks Reich was a good coach needs to watch this interview with Jeff Saturday where he touches on cleaning up after Reich in Indianapolis.  Here's an appetizer:

Continuing to have any faith in him as a head coach after these comments and what we saw last year is insane.  Great guy, horrible head coach.  

I just want to see talent develop and I want to see younger players improving as the season goes on. 

I'm optimistic about the new staff and front office but I won't get excited till I see guys reach their potential. 

CJ Henderson and TMJ appear to be healthy scratches...

lol 

Chart is not mine, found on reddit.  PFF grades so take with a grain of salt but...

Mingo gets poor separation and has some of the worst catch point & YAC in the league.  Actually all of our receivers that are not Adam Thielen have very poor separation. 

Tank is up there with some high performing WRs.  

Our guards have been absolute ass cheeks the first two games, so our offensive results are not really surprising.  Interior pressure really messes with a QB.

I'll be honest, listening to a few minutes of this interview really changed my perspective on Robbie.  He seems like a man who's put a lot of work on maturing, getting his priorities in order and trying his best to put his head on straight.  Hope he balls out this year.  

What I want?  One of the top 3 LTs or a trade down.  What I think we'll actually get?  Malik Willis at 6.  

Malik Willis at #6.  

9 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Go back and look at his stats from the previous 4yrs. You won't feel the same. He struggled to score 13TDs before all of a sudden a good year.  Actually before this season the last 4 he could be described as a guy who was ok in college and not NFL material. 

Body of work is very questionable and so is a five year tenure to be considered draft eligible. Smells all kinds of wrong. So enjoy this season he looks good one has to seriously ask the question, is this a sustainable level of play for this QB? The history isn't good.

Tape is just the half. It's what a guy has done on the field and if this was truly a top prospect it wouldn't have taken five years in the oven.

 

That's fair.   I've really only glanced at 2021 tape after the media started talking about him as QB1 and nothing before then.  And keep in mind I was responding to someone asking if his ceiling is Teddy Bridgewater.  I don't think that's the best comp, he's more willing with the deep ball.  He has more of a Derek Carr like ceiling in my mind, but that absolutely does not mean he'll reach his ceiling.  Most prospects don't, and I see no reason why Pickett would be any different.  

I'm not a huge fan of Pickett but wouldn't be upset if he was the choice.  I learned my lesson that I know nothing about talent evaluation after I was cursing the front office for drafting CMC.  If we do draft a QB this year, I'd prefer Malik Willis.  

41 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Honestly is Pickett’s ceiling any higher than Teddy Bridgewater?

IMO, yes.  I've watched a few Pickett vs (team) clips on youtube but I'm by no means an expert at scouting QBs.  

Couple things that I remember

• Goes through progressions well
• Mechanics are good
• Not afraid to take deep shots
• Can vary release/arm angle 
• Great control of the offense

To elaborate on the mechanics, a lot of the time he was in sync with his "hitches" and reads.  IDK man, I'm not a scout or QB mechanics expert or even good at my day job but that bounce thing where the QB goes through progressions but also lines up his feet and hips to the target?  I'm calling that a hitch. 

First hitch he was looking at the first read with his feet aligned, second hitch looked at the second read with his feet aligned, etc.  This is something that Darnold notoriously struggled with last year.  He would panic and speed up his hitches.  He would be on the second or third read but his feet would be who knows where.  

I'm slightly concerned with his arm strength if he tries to throw off platform.  I thought he ran the ball a little more than I'd like to see at the NFL level.  

I'd say his ceiling is Carr which isn't a bad thing but my personal preference is boom or bust for QBs.  I would not be upset if he was our choice at 6.  

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Ranked Mayfield behind Darnold, Rudolph and Rosen?

Ouch

And explicitly mentioned hand size as a factor.  It may be nothing?  It may be a glimmer of hope that Pickett ain't high on McAdoo's list.  

For those wanting to know a little more about Pep Hamilton:

https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/broadway-battle-pep-hamilton-for-offensive-coordinator/

edits:

Article posted is a take from a Titans site

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Hamilton is a bit of a mutt when it comes to offensive systems. He has roots in the west coast offense, but has referred to his offense as a “no coast offense” previously due to him borrowing elements from Air Coryell and other offensive systems during his career as a coach. He cites Mike Heimerdinger, Norv Turner, and Paul Hackett as influential mentors in addition to Jim Harbaugh.

and another interesting note

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There are clear differences though. Hamilton’s offenses leaned towards power concepts in the running game instead of the zone blocking schemes that the Titans have preferred under LaFleur and Smith (though the heavy incorporation of the duo concept in 2020 showed that Tennessee doesn’t have to be exclusively a zone team to function in the run game). He also was far more pass heavy than Tennessee has been on offense recently, though that could simply be a result of him running the offense through his best player in Andrew Luck (which is a sign of good coaching).

fug it I'll play devil's advocate here.  Couple of things I can see making "sense"

• Out of cap hell in 2022 so 1 year for $18.9 million isn't the worst case scenario
• Commitment, trust, faith, confidence builder  
• if he worked out and reached his potential you have him cheap while working on long term deal (or franchise tag / sign and trade / etc.)
• If it doesn't work out, it still shows Carolina as a place not afraid take risks on projects (injury, poor performance or otherwise) which could have an impact on signing future free agents
• If it doesn't work out, it's easy to move on.  He's on the roster next year so there's some stability in the QB room even if he's not the starter and then he's easily cut and no one could blame the Panthers for cutting him given what he showed on the field 
• It may have been part of the trade?  IDK I'm grasping at straws here 

With those points being made, I think it was a poor decision that sucks for next year but it'll easily be history afterwards.  

18 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Your headline is wrong OP.

 

There is no tear

Good point, it's a strain.  I have no idea how to change the title or else I would.  

16 hours ago, Varking said:

His rankings are strictly off of film. Nothing else. He doesn’t talk to scouts or the kids to get a feel for how successful he thinks they will be in the pros. He’s ranking them on the bits of film he watches which is typically not every game each year. 
 

There is no go-to guy for ranking how prospects will turn out in the pros. 

Oh yea, absolutely agree.  He even gives like 10 minutes of disclaimer saying how it's just off film.  That's the problem with rankings, they're easy to take out of context.  I'm sure his Herbert film breakdown talked a lot about potential and consistency but that's not taken into a single top 10 ranking.  But rankings are easy to criticize and debate.   

I'm a pretty big fan of QB school and All Things QB.  They both have some good content on Darnold also

For a comparison, last years ranking:

1) Tua

2) Burrow

3) Jake Fromm

4) Jordan Love

5) Nate Stanley (Iowa)

6) Anthony Gordon (Wash. St.)

7) Jalen Hurts

8. Justin Herbert

9) Jacob Eason

10) Steven Montez (Colorado)

Maybe not the best guy to go to for rankings.  Excellent film breakdown though, very educational.  

For those looking for a summary:  "To me there's enough on tape to say I would go after Sam Darnold if I was in a situation where I was unsure about my quarterback and I don't feel like I can get up to go and get one of these top guys."

Pretty much spot on for the Panthers. 

3 hours ago, tarheels said:

again,the Carolina defense only looks good from playing in a horrible division and the AFC south.

Actually the Denver defense looks better yardage wise from playing teams ranked lower on average than the teams the Panthers played.  Scoring wise we faced on average similar opponents, and that shows with only an 8 point differential there.  

Source:  

11 minutes ago, SeahawksChamps2016 said:

Btw seattle defense is #1 scoring defense .....just saying.  So dont count on 80 yards drives again.

 I'll admit I haven't watched any Seahawk games with a watchful eye except our showdown..but isn't that #1 scoring defense number a little 'inflated' so to speak.  The Jimmy Claussen lead Bears, Lions, 49ers twice, the Jimmy Claussen lead Ravens, the Matt Cassel lead Cowboys, the Johnny Manziel lead Browns.  Beating up on bad qbs in will decrease your points against average.  

Against good quarterbacks, Rodgers, Dalton, Newton, Palmer, Roethlisberger, your team is 2-4.  

We played Brees, Wilson, Luck, Rodgers, Ryan, Eli Manning, Romo and were 8-1 in those games.  

Well said. I wish this post would go viral like that Tennessee mom's letter. 

Sums up the situation perfectly.