mickeye76

I like this RB class a lot. It's deep with talent. Really no reason not to add to the mix.   I am flexible bout style of back though. I would like to see a power back but willing to just play the board and take best RB on the board.  Chuba has played well considering the situations we put him in. The stigma of being drafted by Rhule and more damning "rhules wifey" liked him. Having to replace CMC reps. All that and the way the Cowboys put lots of reps on him in college. He has done extremely well in spite of some less than ideal situations. That said I do think we could find a complement to Miles and Chuba in this draft and possible replacement for Chuba. 

5 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Yep.  This may have been Charlie Jones.  

Interesting prospect, transferred from Iowa (good for him, awful passing game there).  I've honestly been looking past the dude...really under the radar in sports media.  

NCAA Receiving Leaders in 2022 were: (1) Tank Dell (2) Charlie Jones (3) Rashee Rice

 

In 2022:

110 rec, 1,361 yards, 12 tds, 12.4 ypr

Combine:

4.43

Aiden O'Connell had a QBR of 119.0 when throwing to him.

 

Size: 5'11 3/4, 175 lbs

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/charlie-jones/32004a4f-4e16-0287-5859-a7165d1cc115

Seems like he interviews well and has a chip on the shoulder style.  

My money is on this guy to be who. Fitterer was talking bout. 

If Houston gives us that 12th pick and maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be interesting. 

2. QB maybe Richardson? Whoever is left from the coin flip decision between Young and Stround? 

12. This is new. Who here? Top Tier stuff.  Without the restriction of having to take QB like the last pick.  now we can go BPA in the top 15. 

39. The debate goes on. The addition of the 12th makes this a great situation. Where we can BPA again or go need.  

Flexibility could be the mark of this draft. 

1 minute ago, mickeye76 said:

I like this one a lot. Got back up.      plans for our rehabbing athletes  

So we don't have to "rush" DJ back we pair Horn with another new school safety sized CB in Rush. O Cyrus can play either guard position in place of Corbett or BC. Him beside Icky would sicky. Him beside Moton would also be nasty. Steen can be groomed as the RT of the future. This would instantly make our line a bit bigger and more physical in the future. O Cyrus is actually a really good pass protector at his size too. Then you have Isaiah. He is one of my favorite under the radar picks. At 265 or so he instantly becomes our most traditionally sized ED/ OLB. At 145 i would pick over this deep and talented RB class with a physical North/$outh type goal line vulture in mind. Or a WR that can play S/T.  

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Unless they trade back, it is going to be an Edge. 

 

Disclaimer: Unless it's not.  I give edge a 50% chance, CB and G each 20% chances.  I see no WR who will be there at 39 much better than what is already on the roster now.

I was thinking the same.  Just ran a mock and the offensive talent available at 39 was crazy. Mayer, Washington, Kincaid, Zay, O Cyrus, and Gibbs all there.  Crazy.  I don't see that many dropping.  Instead of a run of defense that obviously happened in this mock or a run on offense that dwindles this enticing group.  I think it will be a 60/40 split.  Leaning towards mostly offense. 

2 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

I have the felling #39 is getting traded. Fitt is going to want more draft picks and 39 is the most valuable asset the team has they can part with easily that allows them to pick up more picks in this draft.

Unless the talent at 39 is just that special. Like. O Cyrus, Jack Campbell, Zay, BJ etc we could likely trade.  45 to 65 is a sneaky area that could be prime spot to add two valuable players instead of just one at 39.  

1 hour ago, Varking said:

He’s an absolute stud. Best player we had a Florida this year. He was a full time starter for Billy before he was a Gator and never allowed a sack. Last year at Florida he only allowed one sack. If he was available at 39 I’d be surprised. A lot of mocks have him going in the first. Would love for him him to drop to us in the second!

If he makes it to us. O is a definite option.  As much as I like the upside of his I think with Campen we can find a cheaper diamond in the rough later.  

We will be taking a OL if the draft falls that way. Could be early could be late. My money is on that 114 pick. I don't think Chandler will make it that far though. Bradford is in play there. 

1. CJ

39. DJ Turner

93. DJ Johnson 

114. Best OL or a skill guy RB, TE or WR.  

Nose tackle, Skill if OL is the 114 and another corner are options rest of way. 

28 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

I've laid this out before.

The Panthers moved up to deal the QBs.

They do not have an internal consensus on a #1 QB. Lamar Jackson is still an option if they can get the price down by having other teams hand over #1 picks.

If they can, they will deal all 4 QBs to other teams and go get Lamar Jackson. If they are put in a spot where they have to draft a QB because no one wanted to move up, they end up with Young or Stroud. I believe teams want Young, Stroud, and Richardson enough that they will move up to get them, and the Panthers control the entire QB market at the moment.

I imagine the Panthers are looking at this as a no lose situation. It will be fun, but I doubt the Panthers stay put at #1. If the Texans don't move on Young, I could easily see the Colts trading up to get him and haunting the Texans in their own division. The Panthers keep Stroud and Young out of the NFC with both of them going to the Colts and Texans with the Texans under pressure.

I then see the Panthers looking to deal Richardson to the Seahawks or Lions if they pay the price. Then the Panthers are in a position to deal Levis if there are any takers from the Colts, Raiders, or Titans.

The Panthers make sure the Falcons and Bucs do not get to sniff a QB in the first round.

We will see how it plays out, but I believe we will see Lamar Jackson teaming back up with Bozeman and Hurst after the draft if teams truly want these rookie QBs. Meanwhile, the Panthers still get a good 1st round pick or 2 in the the 2023 draft and stock up on draft capital for next years draft.

It will be fun to watch.

You doing too much.  

4 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

This guy just looks scary to me.

Patrick Bateman from American Psycho is who he reminds me of. Mayonnaise in coffee, obsession with fitness, vapid girl friend, and those dead eyes.  

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

This is true, but we will also have a ton of cap next season with the opportunity to sign one of the impending FA WRs that may hit the market. All of the following are on the last years of their contracts and may potentially hit FA:

Tyler Boyd (Likely to hit FA if they sign higgins)

Tee Higgins (Likely to hit FA if they keep boyd to save money for burrow)

Jerry Jeudy

CeeDee Lamb (Probably won't hit FA)

Justin Jefferson... (Severely doubt it, but vikings could balk at a large contract, who knows?)

Calvin Ridley

Donovan Peoples-Jones (Quietly having a good start to his career, may sneak up and make bank next offseason)

KJ Osborn

There are plenty others with potential to be low end WR1s as well, but I doubt every single one of the guys listed above is re-signed to a new deal next offseason and we should be players in signing whoever makes it to FA.

This.  We giving TMJ and others a trail run with competent coaching and hopefully a rookie QB that adjusts quickly.  If they earn a new contract yaah, if not we hit FA and the draft next year targeting WR's.  I keep hearing we need to have a guy for the QB to develop with for four years as a reason to go TE or WR early this year.  Not the way I see it. Veterans are better to have for the first year or even two then a more refined QB can take full advantage of a rookie WR and guide him a bit. 

There are two killer TE's in the 24 draft. One guy is basically a more athletic Mayer out of Michigan I think and the other is the receiving threat that kept Washington behind him for targets.  Also just like this year there will be climbers who make a name for themselves. 

Then you have a WR class that is likely taller and more star studded.  Rome wasn't built in a day y'all.   

1 hour ago, PanthersGTI said:

Evero called out Chinn by name as one of the stars on this defense. He will find the place for him to excel, I have faith. Don't let Phil Snow fool you on who Jeremy Chinn is. 

 

As far as the defense as a whole, I think a lot hinges on Jackson coming back strong. If I remember correctly the defense in Denver was focused on the secondary being the backbone of the defense.

We need a contingency plan in case Jackson is not ready.  I like Julius Brents, Darius Rush, and DJ Turner at that 39th pick if we don't go EDGE or ILB 

In the draft I would like to see two style of players added. I think we want to add a bigger edge rusher than the options we have now on the roster. Barno, Haynes, Luvu and Burns are all smaller speed rushers. In free agency Clowney could work. Basically someone around 260 with some speed but with bull rush ability.   

Then similar situation inside. Shaq,Luvu, Smith, Chinn and the FA all are smaller so on obvious running downs a thumper like Noah or Jack to move Luvu out to OLB and hold down the middle would be a thought. 

On passing downs I could see Shaq and Luvu inside with Barno and Burns speed rushing the passer.  But on 3rd and shorts it would be nice to have Chinn playing the nickle and Smith and a bigger rookie inside and Burns paired with a bigger OLB across from him.  

20 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Something I find pretty interesting is the shear volume of EDGE & CBs graded as 2nd-4th rounders.   There's a lot.  

At EDGE, Nick Hampton, Isaiah McGuire, Byron Young & KJ Henry all seem quite interesting.  Really like McGuire.  That first pick in R4 could have some nice players available.  

Garrett Williams and Darius Rush are a few of the CBs with some nice write-ups.    

 

Those positions are the meat and potatoes of this draft. I've been pushing hard against a few folks on here that prefer a WR or TE at that 39th pick. The options and values point to CB or Edge in the 2nd. 

This draft guide sounds awesome.  

Campbell. They both good prospects but Campbell is Luke approved.  

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The reason he is slated to play DT is because the news release from David Newton of SI said, "The 6-foot-3, 300-pound Tuttle, who according to the team website is closer to 315 pounds, likely will play nose tackle for the Panthers, who are transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 scheme."

While it could very well be true, Tuttle is a bit smallish for a NT in a 3-4.  When this was announced, they did not have Penisini.  So even though not all players make the team, you still have to put them in the right place.  I have heard no coach say that Tuttle was a NT, only David Newton, assuming that because we had signed Williams and the weight on the Panther website was listed at 315.  I am not yet convinced that Tuttle is a NT because David Newton read the website--does he not have any more connections than that?  He goes to the website and tells us what it says?

NT in a 4-3 maybe. I also thought Tuttle was a bit light. I like Tuttle as a DE too.  

21 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Does this suggest that Tuttle will not play Nose tackle for the Panthers?  I mean, on the roster we have Penisini, McCall, Roy, and Tuttle slated to play 1 position (NT).  We have Brown, Anderson, and Williams slated to play the 2 DE positions.  Is it possible that the Panthers want to move Tuttle to DE and will let Penisini and McCall (Roy to PS?) handle the NT duties?  I think that is the plan-

I thought same thing.  I think they gonna be doing a lot of workshop variations of lineups on the the front to see what works. I'm gonna let the mad scientist Envero work and put the right guys in the right place. Honestly we piecing it together I doubt the future at NT in 3 years is on the roster right now.  

Another sneaky pick up.  If he is healthy and ready to go could give us nice minutes rotating in behind Tuttle. Always bet on the big Islanders. They built different.  

Brown, Chinn, and Burns are the obvious answers.  But three players i expect to thrive with the new coach are Barno, Horn and Luvu. Luvu and Horn are smart instinctive players who should kill it this year. Barno is similar to Burns as a rookie undersized( for a 4-3)  but a fast and dangerous pass rusher.  If we can add in upcoming years another young corner, ILB, NT and another 3-4 DE the defense is pretty much set up to be a dynasty. 

Scary thing is with some luck and skill we could do most of that this year.  Within two offseasons this defense will be nasty.  

Hell of a rollercoaster ride. At 9 I had resigned myself to not getting a qb.  Maybe Hooker at 39 or that 60 something pick we had.  The we went big and moved up. At that point I was all about Young. Just seasoned and NFL ready I thought. But the combine happened and Stround and AR looked so good in different ways and have leaned into Stround since then. Levis was never on my radar except if we had stayed at 9 and he slipped or if we had just traded up with Arizona.  I'm now firmly on the Stround bandwagon.  He seems like a Reich guy. AR is still a wildcard but I really think he should have stayed in school one more year and built on his resume a bit. He did that through the combine obviously but I would like more tape and some bigger wins.  

1 hour ago, WhoKnows said:

Polarization right now won’t come close to the level it will be at if the one we take turns out to be just OK and the other leads the Texans to a SB win. Might as well lock this place up and throw away the key. There is of course the chance we make the right pick and it works out perfectly, but that type of hope is not available yet.

The new coach in houston and their upcoming draft class could turn it around but I wouldn't worry their FO will end up firing Demarco too early and crap the bed. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Side Note: No indication this guy is visiting with us, but after seeing the name his parents have him, Bumper Pool doesn't sound quite as rough.

 

yep. Reminds me of a boy named SUE by Johnny cash. It's a good thing he like 6'4" and right at 300lbs.