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22 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yeah im not even worried about Miller making shots. That will come.

 

His shot creation is his weakness right now. But even watching him with the ball you can see he can develop that over time. His handles looked way better than I thought. It's just a matter of him being more confident with his movement. He seems weaker in his lower body. He needs to build up his leg strength maybe that will help with his first step burst.

 

 

I'm worried enough for the both of us.   I do think Miller can develop but it really depends on him. The coaching staff is not going to make it happen. He will get the minutes and play with our starters and honestly they are gonna have to carry him for awhile.

32 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

He’s also played four games to Wemby’s one and he hasn’t looked anything but average to below average.

I’m one of the few that wanted Miller but some of the concerns I had about him are already rearing their head.

So far not impressed. Watched a bit of the Lakers game today and we look lethargic. Lakers got some easy transition baskets and dunks. We seemed to have no teamwork or grit. That's bad.  Can't be a finesse team that is sloppy. Or a bad shooting team that can't grind. Right now I see a sloppy, bad shooting team that doesn't hustle for rebounds or play defense very well. I know it's summer league.  I see the logo on the court but we are lacking point blank. This summer league is a showcase for our developing players and recent draft picks and I'm not impressed. 

5 hours ago, 4Corners said:

If there is a place for Puke Kennard and Marvin Money Bags Bagley then Brady Manek can find a role in the NBA. 
 

he played great in his summer league game, former dookie AJ Griffin was even in awe. 

Yeah I don't get the hate. He has a NBA ready frame and is a decent distributer and shooter. 

48 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Smith Jr sucks and is way too selfish.

Yep. He seems to been the contingency plan for passing on Scoot.  Take Miller then a backup scoring type PG in the second instead of a scoring PG then a SG/ SF in the second. Miller and Smith over Scoot and Miller (Leonard)  though. 

On 7/6/2023 at 7:11 PM, TANTRIC-NINJA said:

I was about to post this exactly..but glad to see it jumped out of an otherwise reasonable list of complaints. 

I just like Brady. I think he can be a solid role player in the league. We need players that just do their role and make other players better. 

5 hours ago, WUnderhill said:

Good lord, Lamelo Ball is only the third player EVER to put up 3000 points, 1,000 assists, 1,000 rebounds by 22yrs old. The other 2 are Luka and Lebron. But yeah, let’s get rid of him! Y’all put the ESPN hot take chuckleheads to shame.

My takes are still better than them. I actually talk bout the Hornets. 

1 hour ago, Panthera onca said:

You lost me at Brady Manek.

Brady is a glue guy. Plays smart team ball. Without him on the court UNC fell apart.  Know why? Cause it was a collection of talent with no glue.  Much like the Hornets some talent but don't play cohesively. 

Would have burned it all to the ground and started over. Play some money ball. Heck the Heat just was in the finals with "the replacements" squad and Butler. Get a real coach and draft better. 

It's all gambles. 

Entire draft was a gamble. We passed on guys with less red flags to take gambles on others. 

The Melo deal is also a gamble. Can he stay healthy and become a superstar? 

I'm just not impressed by the moves. Free agency is looking like a gamble as well. All in on Bridges staying despite him and his agents being collectively known as idiots. 

Bridges playing hardball at the negotiating table despite being a PR nightmare. 

Grant Williams got away cause we were distracted. 

We let Brady Manek sign elsewhere. 

PJ also likely to move on cause we focused on Bridges more.

Coaching is still bottom tier. No culture change here.  Sustained mediocrity. 

Lastly we passed on a guy in the draft for a "better" fit. Then proceeded to draft guard and wing over and over again.  

Make it make sense.  

I bet ya Scoot dominates in his debut.  25 points and looks like he belongs.  We will see Friday.  That said now that Miller is a hornet, I hope he will develop but.  As my last hurray as a scoot train guy I'm gonna take the over on scoot scoring more than Miller in summer league debut. 

9 hours ago, MechaZain said:

This is just copium because he didn’t resign with them. The writer assumes Theilen’s our main target and doesn’t mention TMJ or Mingo at all.

Typical ex team talking down bout the one that got away. Minnesota could have still used him but they let him go.  Now he is trash according to their media. He is perfect for a rookie QB. Lots of third down clutch plays and sneaky TD's for him this year. Him and Hurst are the safety valves. Hopefully a healthy Chark, a developing TMJ and Mingo are the stars of the offense. I also think Mingo is meant to learn from and eventually replace Adam but as a bigger and younger slot.  

I'm torn. Theilen and Nuke would be the best WR tandem that I can remember in a long time us having but maybe a couple years too late. Adam and Nuke both got a bit of age on them. I think Adam will help the young guys but I worry another vet might take reps from our young guys.   I'd rather sign a corner with that money. 

On 6/25/2023 at 5:19 AM, Porn Shop Clerk said:

Greg Odenn 7.1

At least Oden had an NFL ready body.  Young Shaq, Robinson and Duncan are the prototypes Wemby reminds me more of Manute. 

3 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Of course he still has to adjust to game speed moments. 

Why is it we can't talk about how good this kid is, without bringing him down?

Too much feel goods? You guys don't know how to handle that as Panther fans? Scared some short stack is going to be a better QB then Cam ever was?

What is it? 

The kid is thriving.  Which means no Matter how you look at it, he's going to be fun to watch come game time. 

Maybe they never got off the CJ train. Pre draft they were a bunch of folks making short jokes and talking out they butts like Ace Ventura. Some but not all were likely Trolls but still talking out they butts. One more time BUTTS. Oh lastly  those people are arseholes. 

3 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Right now it would be for Ingram, another player and the 14th for the 2nd and Hayward if Charlotte bit on it. Think that's the only way it happens. 

And I'm down. Moving on from Hayward is a step.  We need to take several steps in a different direction. 

1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I know Miller is a great talent but recently I read where there are some issues with his game translating to the NBA.  I hope we take Scoot.  

Here's a question for you diehard Hornet fans.  Do you take Scoot and package Melo in a trade?  Revamp the whole team based around Scoot.  I like Melo but I get this feeling that when his time is up here, he is going to want out of Charlotte.

Thoughts

This is thinking outside the box. I like the idea of either pairing Melo with Scoot or Miller but a trade would revamp the team over night. Drop Bridges and use that money to resign Dennis and PJ. Heresy coming trade Melo to the pelicans for some picks. Maybe the 14th and a future 1st maybe or offload Hayward. We can dream. Get out from under the coming Melo, Bridges contracts and the anchor that has been Hayward's. Oh, and a new coach. 

26 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

They could have him on the edge during running downs and move him inside to DE for passing situations--again, it is funny that we have no idea what he can do yet.  We can't trust the previous coaching staff enough to evaluate talent approaching their second contract negotiations--how does that happen?

Hence the comparison to Bennett.  My hope is YGM can fill that role or another. He is only 25 and has untapped potential because of the era of retardation.  That Chinn and Burns developed under those circumstances is amazing. I also hope Tremble and TMJ can finally reach their potential with better coaching. 

Have not given up on Yetur yet. I doubt the coaches have either since they have not got to see him first hand. I have some faith Envero willbe able to put him in the right places to produce.  He actually had a decent season last year or at least his most productive so far. Nice fumble recoveries and tackles.  

I could possibly see him being a Micheal Bennett in this defense. This defense will be Envero's baby. He has many tools to utilize. Chinn, Horn, Burns, Brown and possibly YGM.  It could be the second coming of the LOB. 

On 5/8/2023 at 7:36 PM, Ricky Prickles said:

Im an anti tanker but I feel like management possibly tried to sneaky tank last season and it didnt work out. I believe they fired Rhule who they knew was garbage after the first couple games (took long enough) and replaced him with Wilks who they thought would stink it up worse and send us into the depths of the NFL. Turns out Wilks is a thousand times the coach that Rhule ever was or will be in the NFL and it backfired on them. Had they kept our bumbling idiot as head coach we probably would have finished much worse. To top that off with our QB carousel of crap I felt like they knew we struck turd and were ready to be led there by bad coaching and turd QB'ing. The shockers were Darnold looked better with Wilks and Wilks being a good guy got the players motivated. 

I think plans became to tank but management made moves that accidentally made us gel a little better like showing Rhule the door and Wilks making Darnold look much better.

Also the CMC trade. That seemed like a tanking move.  Lo and behold Foreman shows out with a new simplified offense with less emphasis on passing to the back and simple north south running. 

It wouldn't surprise me if Mingo ends up being one of the best WRs of this class.   

Clooney got the kiss of death. Overdrafted, bad team and bad luck with injuries. He was gifted but a myriad of circumstances (some within his control and some not) have stunted his career. Honestly between the two new rookies that bull Rush run stopper across from Burns spot might be ok. 

This isn't the NBA you can't tank. You can trot out a Jimmy Clausen and end up with a Cam.  But the NFL is a results driven league and unlike the NBA you can't play half speed or bench starters just for draft status.  Putting the QBs out there that we fielded is the closest to tanking you will see in the NFL. The defense and running backs weren't having it.  Fact is we could have beat the Bucs if not for injuries in the secondary. It's just silly. It worked out. We didn't lay down and still got our QB. At this point it's even sillier to talk bout tanking and the shoulda coulda BS than it was during the season. Let it go dude. 

Guess we made two mistakes.  Supposedly Baker and Darnold are great. I didn't see it.   Yeah the offense was vanilla but if PJ, Baker, Darnold couldn't score I think it's on them.   

Prediction.  We will see what a NFL level offense looks like. Baker, PJ, and Sam could barely move the ball down the field.  Bryce will have several 300 yrd games strung together.