KB_fan

Really appreciate this post. Thanks.

8 hours ago, amcoolio said:

Weren't we up 35-0 on the seachickens in the playoffs, only for them to come all the way back

Ah, true. I was only looking at regular season games.

Largest 1st Q. margin:  21 points.   (in a loss:  14 points)

Largest halftime margin:  28 points.  (in a loss: 16 points)

Largest end of 3rd qtr margin:  38 points. (in a loss: 10 points)

Largest final point margin:  38 points.

5 hours ago, Shocker said:

9 points?  This is hardly a 28-3 type of collapse 

Just for fun I looked up Panthers largest-ever margin at halftime.  Funnily enough, 28 points.  3 games.  1 of them versus Atlanta in 2015.  The 38-0 shutout.  Fun. 

4 hours ago, Shocker said:

9 points?  This is hardly a 28-3 type of collapse 

Definitely not a huge lead. I was kind of surprised that a 16 point margin was the biggest halftime lead we've ever squandered.

I got curious as to how the team had fared in the weeks following squandering a big halftime lead.

In the 8 other games where they've led by 9 or more points at the half and then gone on to lose, their record was 5-2 in the following week's game. (In 2001 week 13, the game with the large squandered lead was followed by a bye, so I didn't count it.)

In 2011 week 14, squandered a 16 point lead.  Week 15: Won 28-13

In 2016 week 10, squandered a 14 point lead.  Week 11:  Won 23-20

In 2011 week 11, squandered a 13 point lead.  Week 12:  Won 27-19

In 2001 week 13, squandered an 11 point lead.  Week 14 Bye  [Wk 15 L]

In 2010 week 13, squandered an 11 point lead.  Week 14:  Lost 10-31

In 2009 week 9, squandered an 11 point lead.  Week 10: Won 28-19

In 2016 week 1, squandered a 10 point lead.  Week 2: Won 46-27

In 1998 week 10, squandered a 9 point lead.  Week 11: Lost 9-13

15 hours ago, SBBlue said:

	Att	Yds	PktTm	Sk	Hits	Hrry	Prss%
Lg Avg	173	1217	2.3	12	16	18	24%
Panthers	183	1278	2.4	14	21	22	28%
Saints	120	847	2.6	9	16	13	27%
Falcons	207	1273	2.3	8	28	19	25%
Bucs	228	1747	2.3	9	11	13	14%

We have been on a steady decline since the Saints game, with each game worse than the previous.  The Philly game performance was horrible.   

 

 

Thanks for this.  Depressing stat trend, that's for sure.  

You can look at the data for yourselves here:

https://stathead.com/tiny/Gv69U

23 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

Zane Gonzalez better give up number 5 or we better cut his ass before week 7. Stephon wore number 5 at USC and South Pointe High.

Can't change numbers in season. Zane is in #5 like it or not 

Great thread. Gettleman's drafts killed the team. We had the fewest picks in the NFL during that era, BY FAR. And so so little to show for all of Gettleman's trade ups.

9 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

for all the concern about the picks we traded in 22' - 2nd for Darnold, and a 3rd for Henderson, we still have 5 picks, so to me we are likely planning to increase that total via trading back at some points. Not to mention if we qualify for any comp picks.

I believe we currently have 6 picks for 2022 if Darin Gantt is correct.

Jourdan Rodrigue has a fantastic long form article on the Rams' offensive line today.  

https://theathletic.com/2860335/2021/10/06/its-our-responsibility-to-make-sure-these-skinny-guys-get-their-glory-rams-ol-a-bright-spot-through-4-weeks/

It's a great read.  (Though it makes me sad all over again that we passed over Whitworth when he was available.... sigh. [And yes, I was one of the folks that thought he might be "too old" and was supportive of giving Matt Kalil a try.  UGH. Boy was I wrong, and so was our front office.]

It gives me some hope though that outside of Whitworth, they gave some young, unheralded guys a chance, and they're jelling.

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It’s been a long journey to get to where this group is. They faced notorious re-shuffling at various points throughout the 2019 season, and it wasn’t a standout year for many of the same players who are blossoming now. That year, they also lost Allen to injury (the following season he would also miss the spring after testing positive for COVID-19, and then essentially had to restart his rehab after so much time spent recovering from the illness and having to be away from the facility).

Then in 2021, the Rams parted ways with Austin Blythe, the center who took over for Allen after the injury, in free agency. A couple months later, they didn’t draft any depth at center or elsewhere along the line despite the eligible class being heralded as one of the better ones for interior linemen in recent years, and instead shifted Corbett into the center role where he took the entirety of first-team snaps well into training camp. With just a week left in Irvine, Calif. — where the Rams hold the initial phase of camp — they swapped Allen into the starting role, without him having taken a live rep there since 2019. It was a move many questioned at the time, but Allen has taken to the role like a bulldog to a steak and is getting the job done by any means necessary.

“I continued to say, ‘if you just give these guys some time to actually play in NFL games, and grow up and mature,” Whitworth said. “(Now) we’ve got really got a young line — outside of myself — who is kind of growing into who they’re going to be as football players. They’ve played, they’ve seen a lot of things. So now they’re just getting a chance to work on their talent level and their execution level, things like that. And you’re seeing the fruit of it.”

 

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I like this

The funniest is some mad Packers fans using the GIF of Rodgers throwing his tablet after a pick. .. that of course was from the Panthers W vs Packers in 2015!

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Current header...

The fact that they added "gettin fitty with it" puts it over the top!! 

12 minutes ago, jtm said:

In on every deal except for OL.  OL is going to be the achilles heel for this team.  

 

He said today that he's been making calls. Not finding any sellers, not even for backups. I appreciate that he's open about the need and not pretending the current line is ok 

I couldn't resist doing a bit more digging on this "never trailed" streak.

I pulled out my external hard drive that has all the old Panthers data Excel spreadsheets I created from 2014-2018, including the comprehensive gamebook data spreadsheets I maintained from 2015-2018 with detailed week by week data and did a little browsing through my old files.

In 2015, Panthers also had a 3 game "never trailed" streak.  It was weeks 10-12 of the season.  And week 12 happened to be the infamous Thanksgiving game at Dallas.  Panthers never trailed in that game. 

Can we beat Dallas again from wire to wire in 2021 to get to a 4 game "never trailed" streak this season?!?!?!  Wouldn't THAT be fun!?!!

• In 2015 Panthers had 8 regular season games in which they never trailed, plus the 2 playoff games. (Wks 1, 4, 7, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15) 
• In 2016 Panthers had 5 games they never trailed. (Wks 8, 9, 11, 14, 15)
• In 2017 Panthers had 5 games they never trailed. (Wks 1, 2, 8, 10, 14)
• In 2018 Panthers had 3 games they never trailed. (Wks 1, 9, 17)

I don't have comprehensive data for 2019 & 2020, but just quickly browsed through PFRef to look for streaks.

• In 2019 Panthers ALSO had a 3 game "never trailed" streak:  weeks 4, 5, 6.  They also never trailed in week 9.
• In 2020, Panthers never trailed in 3 games:  weeks 4, 11, 16.

So, we've had 3 game 'never trailed streaks" at least 2 other seasons in our history.  In 2015 it meant something, was part of a season of dominating the league.  In 2019, it proved to be fool's gold, that brief streak where Kyle Allen was winning and we were having fun before it all fell apart.

We'll know more by Sunday night what our 2021 3 game "never trailed" streak means and whether it will continue!

I somehow missed DJ's Next Gen Stats route tree after Thursday's game. Just discovered it this evening.

So the waiver wire order now reflects 2021 record, no longer the 2020 draft order.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1442824305461575684?s=19

According to B/R Panthers are #30.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2948783-updated-2022-nfl-draft-order-after-sundays-week-3-results.amp.html

And here are charts on Cowboys CBs