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3 hours ago, amcoolio said:

Interesting, quite a few posters here parrot constantly that "Bryce didn't make a single NFL throw this past season", yet he sure did bullet a lot of passes in tight windows. If you watch that whole clip, its easy to see how bad the receivers were last year. And his intermediate throws don't look any worse than Stroud, he just has footwork problems to address

He didn't bullet anything into anywhere. Most of those passes he either dropped into the bucket or they were underthrown. 

16 hours ago, GhostOfDocAnderson said:

Saban was listed at 5'6" during his playing days, which was more than 50 years ago. Men start losing height beginning in their 40s at a rate of 1/2 inch per decade on average, so Saban today should be around 5'4" and a 1/2, maybe 5'5" tops.  From eyeballing various photos of Bryce standing next to Saban, Bryce is probably around 5'9", plus or minus 1/2 inch. He's unlikely to be 5'10" and most definitely not 6'0" as measured by Alabama. 

This just reminds me... Remember all the praises heaped on Bryce before the draft? People were crooning about his elastic arm, his ability to make off-platform throws, his super processing, his calm and poise, his elite S2 score, yada, yada, yada? Except for that snake oil S2 score, it was all fugging bullshit!

Bryce is the most deceptive hype job to date, all thanks to the 'Bama Machine and its cronies at ESPN, and the Teppers bought it hook, line, and sinker. If you want to predict his ceiling, first you must consciously ignore the pre-draft lies told about Bryce and make assessments solely based on his NFL tape. 

Ask yourself this: what do I see on his NFL tape that tells me he's gonna turn out OK or be deserving of the capital we gave up to draft him at no. 1? When viewed this way, the outlook for Bryce becomes much, much bleaker. 

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This picture is hilarious. It looks like someones highschool kid put on a Alabama jacket and took a picture with the Heisman.

24 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

maybe linville can make a sister safe space to the positive vibes thread that is only for the same 4 posters who spam bryce comparison pics and obsess over his weight 

No need to obsess. He is tiny. We tried to turn a guy built like a high schooler into a NFL caliber QB. 

11 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I mean throwing with AR, Levis, and Stroud would make most QBs look bad. I don’t blame him. Probably the same reason Burrow didn’t want to throw with Herbert. 

Yeah. I would have knocked his draft stock down. 

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep, Bryce is gonna be the starter next year like it or not. I do hope they allow a vet to push him in camp though. Whether that's Dalton or a guy like Minshew or Brissett. It's gonna be hard to install a new tougher mentality if you're treating one of your players with kid gloves.

I still can't get over the fact that he didn't throw at the combine. We also had to pull him to throw a hail Mary. How are people talking about arm strength? His own people doubt it based off of this.

1 hour ago, Solaris said:

The skill position and IOL talent, indefensible scheming, and coaching turmoil are irrelevant because of the stat sheet. Got it. I’ll reserve judgment until I see Young operate within a modern offense with NFL caliber players. Not a perfect situation. Not the Miami Dolphins. Just a collection of players in the ballpark of league average. A roster assembled to at least present the rare opportunity to attack a defense deep. Not an unreasonable expectation. I have no investment in this beyond wanting to see Young succeed or fail in a context where his success or failure can’t immediately be attributed to an all-pro or all-trash supporting cast. I don’t believe many people on either side of the argument here are interested in finding the truth about Bryce Young unfortunately.

Hard to say how truly bad this offense was. We only saw it with one other QB and it looked fine then. 

If they had benched him half way through the season , then we could have seen wether it was him or the team. I suspect that's why they let him play all the games to the end. Didnt want to embarrass him.

3 hours ago, hepcat said:

100%. The Texas game showed how Bryce handles the level of pressure he’d face in the NFL. He looks exactly the same every game in the pros as he did in that Texas game. I was saying this long before the Panthers drafted him. 

Meanwhile, all Stroud did was deliver an almost flawless performance all season, and stepped up in the biggest game of his career against a tough Georgia defense. You want a player who plays the best in the biggest moments. 

We don’t know what conversations really happened behind the scenes. But I don’t believe the Panthers PR release that entire organization was behind drafting Bryce Young. I had a feeling that if Bryce (expectedly) looked like sh*t, there would be coaches fired. And lo and behind, the most likely Bryce detractors were fired mid season.

I think Frank Reich was doomed the moment they selected Young. He probably didn’t want him and was too old and stubborn to change his scheme to make an offense to hide Bryce’s many limitations and flaws. 

But back to the original point, all of Bryce’s issues were right there on his game tape, but David Tepper and his wife didn’t seem to notice or care. 

The question they should have asked is what does he do at an elite #1 pick level? 

2 minutes ago, Castavar said:

It's just crazy to me that between the combine, private workouts, and college tape, that THIS was the guy to choose over Stroud. The blunder of the decade right here. You cannot tell me our scouts (that get paid millions) came back with all that research and concluded this was THE guy. I just don't believe they were that incompetent. This was a Tepper move 100%.

I think it was a combination of him being at Alabama, winning the Heisman, and sheep mentality. He had all these same flaws at Alabama, its just they have a overwhelming talent advantage most of the time. 

Did he throw at his pro day?

29 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Who is shading Cam? Asking people why they were so adamantly supportive of Cam through some below average performances and losing seasons but are quick to poo on Bryce is a valid question and a weird juxtaposition. If you can’t answer the question, then you are either being intentionally dense or can’t see the irony.  

Because people actually saw cams potential In his first few games. He lit the fan base up and was super charismatic. Bryce young not so much..

If they were playing the same defense what happened the first 3quarters?