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I hope Sullivan can help fill that role as well

He’s one of those guys that was mocked late a month ago that will go much earlier like Claypool to the Steelers last year. Given the weird year last year and no combine, I’ll bet there will be quite a few of those risers.

I’ve done a couple mocks lately where Sewell and Slater are both gone by 8. Would you guys against trading back be more likely to want to trade back if that happened?

36 minutes ago, Verge said:

I know you all have been waiting for it, and I have finally compiled my mock draft. I will be doing the entire first round and then the rest of the Panthers picks. This is based on what I have been told and my own evaluations. Before I start some things I should note, this will be the least accurate year for mock drafts for I think everyone, so nothing is written in stone. As another note, a lot of teams are going to opt for players who did not opt out last year and that could very well be a draft night trend, so watch out for that.  Let's get it. 

1. Jacksonville Jaguars
Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE 
Nat's notes:  Obviously lol 

2. New York Jets
Zach Wilson, QB, BYU
Nat's notes:  Other QBs were explored, but they felt comfortable here with Zach for the last month or so. 

3. San Francisco 49ers
Mac Jones, QB, ALA 
Nat's notes:  I have been saying this since they traded up, Mac is the guy. Internet scouts (including me) severely underrate the level at which he played QB this year. The more tape you watch on him the more it makes sense. Mac Jones is the #3 QB on multiple boards, including ours. 

4. Atlanta Falcons
Trey Lance, QB, NDSU 
Nat's notes:  They could look to trade down and still take Lance a little later, but I think ultimately if you like Lance, which as I have said they do, you sit here at 4 and take him. He is the perfect fit for this offense, and gives him the ability to sit in learn for a year and flip Ryan for an early pick next year. Stonks. If they do manage to trade down, I think the #4 pick will be Lance regardless of who picks here. 

5. Cincinnati Bengals
Jamarr Chase, WR, LSU 
Nat's notes:  Obviously this could be Sewell, but you get the sentiment that they want to recreate that elite connection between Burrow and Chase. They need to improve their down the field passing game, and Chase does this for you. They will obviously swing back in the 2nd and grab an offensive lineman in a deep class. 

6. Miami Dolphins
Kyle Pitts, TE, FLO 
Nat's notes:  It's who they have wanted this whole time, and they sit here and get him. Elite level talent and a top three player in this draft. Slam dunk for the Dolphins who are playing chess. 

7. **Trade** Denver Broncos
Justin Fields, QB, OHST 
Nat's notes:  Pssst the Broncos want a QB and are going to try and trade up to get one. Both of the teams ahead of them stay put to take the top offensive skill position guys, so Denver moves up as early as possible to get their guy, which is Justin Fields. If the Lions do stick here, I think the pick will be Sewell.

8. Carolina Panthers
Penei Sewell, OT, ORE 
Nat's notes:  This is obviously a dream scenario and one that as you can see, could easily play out. Slam dunk pick for a team that has been looking for their starting LT since Jordan Gross retired. If Detroit sticks at 7 and picks Sewell, Slater would make a ton of sense as well. Protect Sam Darnold or give him a weapon (Waddle/Smith) 

9. Detroit Lions
Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 
Nat's notes:  Here we are crossing our fingers hoping Detroit does not stick at 7 and take Sewell. If they manage to trade down, I expect them to take the top weapon they can to help out Jared Goff, that is Waddle. 

10. Dallas Cowboys
Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA 
Nat's notes:  I imagine Slater would be awfully tempting here but you have to help out a secondary that was burned all year. Surtain is a perfect fit and an all star at the position. 

11. New York Giants
Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO 
Nat's notes:  Maybe the first big surprise of the draft? Edge is their biggest need, and Azeez is one of the best edge available, being super versatile helps pus the card in his favor. Slater has to be considered here as well. 

12. Philadelphia Eagles
Devonta Smith, WR, ALA
Nat's notes:  I know they wanted to trade up to go get Wilson, and they want to trade up for Waddle here as well, but with neither of those happening Smith falls into their lap for a very sensible selection. Surround Hurts with talent and give him the best chance to succeed. 

13. Los Angeles Chargers
Rashawn Slater, OT, NW 
Nat's notes:  Chargers are doing the happy dance if Slater falls to them, and they run the card up to fill in the massive hole at LT. If he is gone expect someone like Darrisaw to fill the spot. 

14. Minnesota Vikings
Christian Darrisaw, OT, VT 
Nat's notes:  Speaking of Darrisaw, Vikings fill out the LT position to help protect Kirk Cousins and get a starter for the next 10 years. 

15. New England Patriots 
Jaycee Horn, CB, SC 
Nat's notes: Patriots lock up their secondary in case of departures of Gilmore or Jackson, and create a deadly mix in the secondary this year. Zaven Collins in another ones to watch here. 

16. Arizona Cardinals 
Greg Newsome, CB, NW 
Nat's notes: They have to be steaming that Horn went one pick before, but Newsome is an excellent consolation prize as a lengthy corner who can jump in and start right away. 

17. Las Vegas Raiders 
Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC 
Nat's notes: They have signaled what they are doing after cutting half their offensive line. Tucker provides elite versatility and can plug and play anywhere on the offensive line. 

18. Miami Dolphins
Jaelan Philips, DE, MIA 
Nat's notes: They get a local kid who is ultra productive and the best pure defensive end in the draft. 

19. Washington Football Team 
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, ND 
Nat's notes: Slam dunk pick for Ron as they nab the best LB in the draft, they are hoping he doesn't go earlier than this. 

20. Chicago Bears
Teven Jenkins, OT, OKST 
Nat's notes: Makes a ton of sense here, can immediately come in and upgrade their run game to be a mauling bunch. Would not be surprised with the shock of the night by taking a Davis Mills or Kellen Mond here, I know they like both. 

21. Indianapolis Colts
Kwity Paye, DE, MICH
Nat's notes: Fits perfectly with that defense and gives them a starting edge rusher. Look for them to target tackle in the second round. 

22. Tennessee Titans
Rashod Bateman, WR, MINN 
Nat's notes:  Farley has to be tempting here, but I worry about the medicals. I know they like Bateman who will be an immediate #2 opposite AJ Brown. 

23. New York Jets
Landon Dickerson, G/C, ALA 
Nat's notes: Protecting Wilson is the priority over getting an edge or corner here. Dickers in a big bodied elite level guard talent. Take him and run 

24. Pittsburgh Steelers
Najee Harris, RB, ALA 
Nat's notes:  They are desperate to make the run game work. Tackle would make more sense but Najee immediately puts some juice in the run game as their RB1 

25. Jacksonville Jaguars 
Christian Barmore, DT, ALA 
Nat's notes: They desperately need interior help and Barmore fits that grade. 

26. Cleveland Browns
Gregory Rosseau, DE, MIA
Nat's notes: Browns take a risk with an opt out player, but cannot pass up the size and physical abilites Rosseau brings. 

27. Baltimore Ravens
Jayson Oweh, EDGE, PENN 
Nat's notes: Ravens take the BPA with a Danielle Hunter clone 

28. New Orleans Saints
Caleb Farley, CB, VT 
Nat's notes: Saints hit a home run on a health risk that fills a need. Will he fall this far? Only time will tell 

29. Green Bay Packers 
Asante Samuel Jr., CB, FST 
Nat's notes: Competes right away for the #2 corner spot and makes the secondary a lot more rangy. 

30. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (trade)
Joe Tryon, DE, WAS 
Nat's notes: Comes in and provides depth right away and helps out in an already dominant pass rush. 

31. Kansas City Chiefs 
Liam Eichenberg, OT, ND
Nat's notes: They obviously need offensive line help, and Eichenberg can compete for the LT spot right away. 

32. Buffalo Bills
Travis Etienne, RB, CLE 
Nat's notes: Traded down and still got who they wanted. Etienne will be the immediate starter in Buffalo. 


 

Here is the full version of my first round mock. I will be following up later with the Panthers 7 round plan. 

Totally agree there will be lots of surprises- guys we thought would be much later, and some guys falling. That taking a year off thing will affect a bunch of choices in my opinion.

OL- Leatherwood, Mayfield, Dickerson, Humphrey, Meinerz, Radunz, Davis, Cosmi

CB- Stokes, Melifonwu, Newsome, Campbell

LB- Collins, Davis, Cox

WR- Moore x2, Marshall,Toney, Bateman

QB - Mills

Wildcards- Grant, Moehrig, Barmore, 

They have us taking:

1. Slater

2. Trask

3. Hunter Long

Lots of these red areas could be addressed in the draft except probably DT due to the week class. Even better chance with trade back(s).

Sewell/Slater/Darrisaw in 1st

Joseph/Melifonwu/Gowan/Adebo/Campbell in 2nd

Meinerz/Banks/Smith/ Green in the 3rd

Felton/Schwartz/Newsome/Shi Smith/  4th (or Philyor later)

Wilson/Odighizuwa/ 5th

Jackson/ Ball/Van Lanen OT

BPA 

something like this if no trade down:

So how many of the top 100 prospects do you think could legitimately start for us next season? If we traded back once or twice (if we had partners I know) and could add top 100 picks, could we possibly get 4-5 starters or significant contributors and would that be worth it?

I think we could easily get Two OL starters and two DBs at least. Not sure if that’s more of a commentary on our current talent, or value in the draft

8 hours ago, MHS831 said:

There is always that one player that you remember that shows us how stupid we are about the transition from college to pros.  Not just us---the GMs and scouts.  I mean, they weigh them, interview them, watch hours of film, and they make them run drills, jump high and far, lift weights, take tests, and the success rate for first rounders is about 55%?

Why go through that much trouble?  Flip a damn coin.

Waddle was the slot WR with 2 pretty good WRs on the outside.  He can scat, for sure.  Here, the situation will be pretty similar.  So maybe there is something there.

I look at positional value, and a LT is worth far more than a slot WR.   So for me, it is a no brainer--I hope he is gone before we pick.

Agree. Positional value PLUS impact on your team should influence the pick. BPA could be a redundancy on our team and thus minimize impact for us. There are quite a few small, quick slot guys available in later rounds

Waddle has had an amazing college career and would be fun to watch here- but I can’t help being reminded of Ted Ginn having a similar college career and being drafted in the top 10 by Miami...... Very talented but limited impact as a pro.

This is where positional value affects my thinking.

We always assume these top guys are “can’t miss” yet many of them do. I think Jimmy Johnson liked to have extra picks to increase his chances of hitting on players, plus, we need a lot more players.

I would be ok with trading back to increase our number of top 50 picks or even get a 1st in 22.

Emailed and called to see why there was no “we value our fans” junk with a letter from the team mailed out this year. Received two call backs but no explanation.

Or trade back with Dallas and add a 4th:

I’ve always been a fan of trading back but when I do the mocks, if you wait past the teens, you can get a good OT prospect or an RT, but not someone guaranteed to start at LT. I also like Darrisaw as LT2. So Sewell or Darrisaw at 8. Still good CB available at 39, then OL at 73.

I’m also warming to the idea of trading back at 39 if an offer is available.

1 hour ago, Zod said:

Hello my loves. I hope you are having a splendid week. Today, for you, I have my official 3 round mock draft for the Carolina Panthers. 

It is as follows. 

8. Penei Sewell - OT-  Panthers lock in on their stud left tackle for the next decade. 

39. Trey Hill - C/G - Versatile guy that would start at guard this season, center next season. 

73. Richie Grant - S - Ball hawking safety that could likely start week 1. 

 

Here you have 3 players that would very possibly be available at the Panthers selection that would immediately start week 1. You can't ask for much more out of rounds 1-3. 

Interesting. Don’t mind Hill but it seems early for him. NFL.com has him as sixth best C. Dickerson or Meinerz maybe?

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

Am I crazy to think we should trade up 1-2 spots for Sewell if he comes within Range?

 

 

 

Yes

Much more excited. Now we can use 8 on an immediate contributor, or trade back a bit and get multiple contributors. Darnold has talent but hope hasn’t been ruined by the Jets.

Hope the 2nd is conditional 

Unless they’re trading CMC I think drafting an RB, especially that early, is a waste.

Also not sure why we’d draft two WR or Ehlinger 

Love the trade down idea. If you can trust the mock sites, going to 21 or 22 can get us a first in 2022 as ammo for next year QB possibly, and an extra 4th.
 

22- Teven Jenkins OT

39- Eric Stokes CB

73- Mond/Mills QB (so we don’t have to live through another Teddy season)

114- Ben Cleveland IOL

127- Demetric Felton RB/WR

152- JaCoby Stevens S

194- Bryce Thompson CB

223- Naquan Jones DT

226-Israel Mukuamu CB/S

Who knows what really happens, but I think we need OT and CB in the first two rounds (assuming we don’t reach for a QB).

In the mocks I’ve done, it seems like there is better value at CB than OT in the second. So I’d say Sewell/ Slater in 1st, Newsome/Stokes/Campbell/Joseph in the 2nd. Then still good IOLs available in the 3rd.

Rhule was probably there to see Pitts, but more likely later round talent like OT Forsythe, or WR Grimes