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9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

just found zach wilson 84%, kindof showing its not the end all be all.  My point is if we valued it so highly then why wasnt it trotted out last year? 

I guess I'd say we could have valued it highly and the media not yet caught up fast enough to actually know to try and share it yet.

Just think S2 was massively more reported on this year than in the past after the Purdy stuff.  Wilson is a good example of how a high score doesn't automatically mean good, also there definitely isnt enough data to say a bad score automatically means bad. Just trends that we cant really judge because we only have incomplete data as fans, but the teams seem to think the trend is real I guess.

Sounds like there are certain pieces of the score that correlate better than the entire score as well, and we dont get to see any of those.

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I am not sure if this has been discussed but I can only find a wonderlic test for Corral (15) but I cannot find a s2 score.  So if we value the s2 score so highly why didnt he take it?

Can you find other s2 scores from last year I havent been able to? I know Purdy scored in the 90s but that didnt come out until after he was successful. Feels like no one leaked the scores last year and then the Purdy success lead to the media being more focused on it.

B for me, personally am glad we prioritized Bryce early on day 2 with Mingo. Need to keep adding receivers around him. Zavala was a guy I thought could go in round 3 so I was psyched about him.

Mingo was one of the few receivers that I liked that could play outside, love his RAC ability, feels like someone Reich is going to absolutely love with his scheme. 

Robinson feels like a classic Fangio/Evero nickle, Florida State fans seem to love him, I’ll keep an open mind.

The trade up was the only thing I truly disliked, DJ is whatever I can see why he fits really well with Evero so I’ll give him a shot. 

Overall this draft completely rides on Bryce and I’m super high on him so I’m very happy.
 

After that it did feel like we drafted guys that complimented what the staff wants to do and that’s a plus as well, also I’m never opposed to missing on Athletes if we are going to miss, glad the days of limited athleticism players are gone.

Wonder if Sean Tuckers medical stuff is gonna stop people from signing him as an UDFA, would love to get him.

2 minutes ago, WestPanthers said:

Hope the kid works out and worth for the traded up. Otherwise just like another Rasheen Gaulden picked....

One positive for me is Gaulden was a basement level athlete, at least now the picks we question have elite athletic traits.

3 minutes ago, GOAT said:

have a feeling the Rams are going to shock everyone and take Levis to sit behind Stafford until he's ready.

Rams know Cohen his OC in 21 well, and it sounds like they are concerned about his long term health, it makes a lot of sense.

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is one of those times when a comma would be a pretty good idea

Lmao, can’t stop what’s never started!

I love watching how happy CJ was. I'm so glad the NFL didnt let the bull crap drop him. The CJ and Bryce celebrating together video just made me so happy.

End of the day I think they are both great people and are both going to be enjoyable to watch play for a long time. Its fun to see the positive sides of this experience after being so frustrated for CJ for so many weeks leading up to it.

I of course love Bryce and love his personality as well, and I think he's just so genuine. He'll be someone I'm proud to have at QB and the face of the franchise.

22 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Nice of you to agree.

I could care less if Young ends up the best or not as long as he leads the team to back to back winning seasons and a Super Bowl win. Heck, considering how bad the last few years have been, I might be content with just a bunch of winning seasons in a row.

First stop back to back winning seasons!

At least if we miss we have his #2 QB in 2020 to fall back on.

Just now, ForJimmy said:

No QB that drinks coffee with mayo has shown success in the NFL. 

You gotta respect how he doesn’t waste any time peeling Bannanas so he has more time to watch film.

Is Will Levis the only non outlier QB now?

It does feel good to hear Cam say that, don’t know why I felt like I needed his blessing, but it got me more psyched for the draft.

2 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

My guess is that Stroud sold them at his pro-day to cement a minimum 2-prospect viability at 1.  Young v Stroud, with many leaning CJ.  They were genuinely impressed.  I don't think Levis was far behind but the kid does has some big accuracy & mind-arm/hand-eye sync issues to work out.  Similar with AR but with other areas-for-improvement.  

As they dug in, interviewed, spoke to their coaches, teammates, really studied the tape, it simply moved to Young.  

Could be, I just think back to the combine though and you can hear Reich focusing on Young. I remember leaving that presser shocked how into Young he was. That’s why I started taking him more seriously and then he did it again in that presser before the pro days.

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

Slowly and surely sounds like who we are picking isn't who we thought we'd pick when we traded up. 

“There were inclinations early… the conviction built gradually for us coaches… the scouts were ahead of us”

Sounds like Fitt knew who he wanted and Reich liked him but needed to go through the process and confirm what he thought originally.

9 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Our secondary sucked last year we got no legion of boom. Maybe a run game but our guards had major injuries at the end of the season. I'm not saying we'll suck but you can't assume we have a 2012 Seahawks supporting cast to carry a young QB

Its not the Seahawks but its a very promising group to help a Rookie QB comparative to the usual talent levels around a number one pick.

McDonald is one of the guys i'd love to get at 39. So i'd be in.

2 minutes ago, ncsfinest21 said:

Because most QB's under 6' it takes  years to adjust to the NFL especially height wise. 

Didn’t Russ and Kyler start year 1? I think Russ won a Super Bowl on his rookie deal. Maybe in his second season actually.

17 minutes ago, ncsfinest21 said:

Do you think we will run shotgun all game long. If we get him Id go for him but as of now I dont see how he becomes good until year 4 or 5 after we get rid of him.

Why do you think it’s going to take 4 or 5 years to be good?

Just now, rippadonn said:

Matt Corral is more like Cam than BY. YOU are in the past with your 5'10" 185lb pocket mouse, accounting wizard, scrambled pocket passing, water walking, woman stealing, limo riding, best smallest, not the size of the boat but the motion in the ocean, best thinnest, Chosen Anderson but no rush yards because he can't, QB is going to show the NFL something new?

I don’t think there is anyone on this site that can make me laugh as consistently as you do. This is high level stuff.

3 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

He's obviously better than CJ. LOOK these stats prove it. He's better than Kyler and Matt Corral too. They told me so! It must be true!!!

Thinking these stats prove anything smh.

5 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Tom Brady had flaws ? I don’t recall any.  

Where did Tom come from in this thread?

But if we are talking the prospect 

He had a below average arm and a slight unathletic frame coming out of school and had been benched for a “better” prospect in school.

There were plenty of reasons why he dropped as far as he did.

8 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

op what is the source for that 2.5 seconds

If you are curious what the actual stats are 

PFF average time to throw Reg + Post Season are

Bryce Young

2021 - 2.79

2022 - 3.02

CJ Stroud

2021 - 2.68

2022 - 2.92

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

Who's your hook-up? College All-22 tape is notoriously difficult to get. 

There are a few Patreons that you can subscribe to. The one I remember off the top of my head is Caddys Cutups.

16 minutes ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

Just like Young when he pretty much does the same thing when defenders come crashing through and in his face he throws constant incomplete passes. Both QB's would need some serious all out coaching to fix these issues and hopefully be corrected.

Young holds it too long at times trying to make something happen which will need to be corrected but he’s much more successful when pressure comes through than Stroud on film. Stroud also has a tendency to throw up some dicy passes when the pressure gets through that scare the hell out of me personally.

Yes they both have work to do but one is much more impressive on film to me than the other.

 End of the day none of us are pro scouts though which is why I was going to accept whatever our FO wanted.