CarolinaSamurai

I hope I hope I hope

Either way, putting Collins in the same sentence as Carruth is absolutely tacky and unethical journalism. He's being questioned and has been explicitly stated as being "not a suspect".

That is like saying anyone whose friend is murdered might be the next Aaron Hernandez. It's just a lack of respect for the system and the person.

But again...didn't want to make this about Voth.

I think bringing up Carruth isn't tackey because JR and this organization changed with that case. You have to remember JR is in charge and we all know if he puts his foot down about character issues it is law. Even with him being completely innocent the mere notion might turn JR away from Collins. I think voth is just pointing out that aspect of the team and not correlating this young man and Carruth. It's the owners mind set and it might prevent us even considering Collins

I'm not referring to that tweet. Voth has been saying it the past few days.

Link please

Offer him a big money(comparable to a first or second round) three year deal contingent being cleared. The most creative team wins

UDFA are capped there is no big deal to offer

I'm sure he wants to play here he has tons of upside to doing so. But we have JR remember he is extremely against any kind of issues like these even just being a person of interest might make JR turn away from him

The fact him a Trai talk everyday and money doesn't factor with the UDFA cap he could end up here. If JR has any issues even if cleared I doubt it. He seems hell bent on avoiding any slight problems. JR I think is a big reason hardy got shown the door even with players vouching for him

God i fugging swear one of our beat reporters better flat out ask Gman "if Collins is clear, would he be an option." I want to atleast know if he is in play for us

GMan-"anything possible bup bup bup bup"

We need possession receivers and he is one. He maybe high enough on the list to keep but depends on training camp. I don't imagine us keeping both him and cotchery. Then again we may drop both just depends.

Can we get a updated and comprehensive post on the UDFA pleeeeeeeease. All these posts are making my head spin

So I'm guessing we may not want Klein to be the only guy for backup MLB. This probably puts Jacobs & Reddick off the roster.

My guess:

Starters: Shaq Thompson-Luke Kuechly-Thomas Davis

Main backups: Mayo, Glanton, Trusnik, Klein

We carry 7 total.

This is the most sensible informative post yet. Makes sense thanks

I think maybe Dave was eating a sammich, unaware we were on the clock so suddenly, and said "Hey guys, I think I need some mayo."

A try-hard assistant nearby thought Dave was looking at the draft board-- and took that as "That's who Mr Gettleman wants--the only guy named Mayo in the draft. Write it down and send it over!"

And that my friends, is the story of Justin Mayo becoming a Panther.

I like the explanations so I'm understanding more and more. But I kinda wanna throw out logic and think this is what happened. Hahaha

A lot of whining going on in this thread.

I think it's more confusion then whining. If you care to explain it I'm all ears.

I'm scratching my head on this one. Been on board with every pick but this one I just don't get at all.

Another 3 for 1...... ugh.

You worry me

Yay! Turned on the mobile app to watch while I was at work.... Sat down and we are picking?!?! Woot

Gross specifically said Dave tried to get him to stay.

So there's that...

But hey, whatever YOU say.

Mr Scott was agreeing and adding it's not even a rumor it's totally untrue. Which you just restated. Honest mistake cheers!

You're right, he has done something. He pushed the best LT in franchise history out the door after a pro bowl season and has tried to fill the hole with dollar store signings and Byron Bell, meanwhile not investing a single draft pick, late round project or otherwise.

Nothing in his history has shown me I should trust him to protect a franchise QB, even going back to the Giants.

Really? At this point your using rumor as a fact. Stop it! It makes you look petty and arrogant. That maybe what you think happened but unless Gross told you in hushed tones while you two chums had a beer what happened. Shut the F.U.K up

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I see where you are coming from. Since I work in the legal field I have a different perspective than most and I understand how difficult it is to get a conviction and judges are super smart people.

If you work in the legal field how come you think the judge found hardy guilty? Do you practice in NC because if you do you should know Trail De Novo and that the judges verdict no longer exists in the eyes of the law. You should also be aware that NC uses bench trails in these cases to test if it's worth going to a jury trial at all which causes the guilty verdict.

Condo resident calls police and frantically says a woman is getting the living shít beat out of her.

Judge finds Hardy guilty after hearing testimonies & viewing photo evidence.

Panthers place Hardy on exempt list.

Hardy pays Holder to disappear so he doesn't have to face a trial.

DA motions to dismiss case after they fail to locate Holder for months, even with the aid of law enforcement.

Panthers briefly discuss re-signing Hardy but quickly dismiss the idea after internally investigating the case.

Cowboys sign Hardy after doing a thorough investigation into his DV case but write in numerous out clauses because they believe he will receive a lengthy suspension.

NFL spends months trying to gain access to case evidence and photos before making any decisions regarding Hardy's status. NFL is finally given the photo evidence, and just days later the NFL quickly suspends Hardy for 10 games. NFL states that photos show bruises and scratches all over Holder consistent with her testimony, including marks around her neck.

Huddle:

BULLSHÍT HE'S INNOCENT!!! STUPID GOLD DIGGING CRACK *****!!! YOU RETARDED PHAGGOTS BELIEVING HER!!! WERE YOU THERE DID YOU SEE THE PHOTOS??? FUG GODDELL STUPID NFL!!!

Dude stop using false information to further your point. Did you not read my last post to you. Man your ignorant

-Judge view photos and finds Hardy guilty

-NFL views photos and suspends Hardy

Huddle response:

LA LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU

The case was thrown out because Hardy paid Holder to go away and hide from the DA. The photos, no matter how bad they might be, aren't worth a damn in that case without her testimony. They spent weeks looking for her and had law enforcement searching for her. They didn't throw the case out because they didn't have a case. They threw it out because Hardy paid her off.

I don't know why I keep having to do this buttt it was a bench trail/trail de novo/NC state law blah blah blah. In short your wrong he wasn't found guilty read up on the law around here. It's stupid and backwards but it's just like seeing if the case is worth the states time or not, the verdict of the judge is meaningless.

This is the kicker, these so called photos arnt public and wasn't enough to go to trail with. The NFL is a private company that cares, and rightfully so, more about its public image than the truth. If you think for one second that this suspension has anything to do with right and wrong your crazy.

Your entitled to think he's guilty but please don't use incorrect facts to corroborate your opinion. That's what infuriates me the most. You don't know what happened neither do I but I don't pretend I have evidence that says he's innocent and she's crazy, that's just what I think.

There is photographic evidence of bruises and scrapes all over her body; enough evidence that a judge found him guilty and now the NFL has suspended him after viewing.

And Hardy paid her an undisclosed amount of money to keep quiet and go away so he could avoid a jury trial.

Yep, nothing is proven. Poor, innocent Greg.

You have these photos? You witnessed the crime? Your know Nicole? Why didn't you come forward and testify? These magical photos that are so damning that the case got thrown out..... Yeah you know all great and powerful guy posting on a forum. GIVE ME A BREAK Thank God your not a judge somewhere.

What is wrong with our justice system? We have failed if we have to wait for a private entity to administer any semblance of justice. The DA in Charlotte should bow his head in shame.

I'm sorry but if the NFL has all this damming evidence then why wasn't it shared? If any of this is true why wouldn't the courts follow through? Maybe because the injuries looked to be self inflicted? There are so many holes in her story and his, the NFL may feel like trying to be the law but it isn't. This is why because Ill informed idiots like yourself would throw half the innocent people in prison based on personal opinion not facts.

He didn't get suspended because he was accused. He got suspended because there were photos showing the evidence of how he beat her.

It's not an accusation, it's a fact.

Your so wrong on this, get a law degree and come back here. Till then stop spouting nonsense

Change the title or something please it's misleading now

Sorry to see the man go but not the production as of late