Santee_Panther

On 10/25/2021 at 7:55 AM, Carl Spackler said:

Here's a fair question: who acquired said players?

Who:
- traded for Darnold
- ignored the offense for an entire draft
- skipped picking any OL in multiple rounds this year
- extended Robby Anderson to a big deal
- kept his college QB as the backup because he was his college QB
- advocated for signing two of the league's worst OL to hilarious deals early in free agency

Hilarious deals for the OL? I presume you're talking about the $8mil over 2 years in guarantees for Erving and the $6mil in guarantees for Elflein over 3 years? You don't get GOOD OL for less than $15mil per year. We got two mediocre vets for an ave of $6mil per year.

Objectively we can talk about the merits of Horn over Slater. I was shocked at the time for sure. 

19 minutes ago, frankw said:

Some Panthers fans basically celebrated the demise of Newton's career here. Tried to tell them what awaits...

 

That's a bit of a reach. Many fans were concerned that Cam wanted a big extension coming off multiple years of injuries. In the meantime, he got near the league minimum last year and this year he's sitting on his couch.

1 hour ago, Shocker said:

Feel bad for his wife and kids.  Meyer is pond scum

I agree. But then again, he was probably always a jerk. I doubt he has changed his stripes…

Paradis is the worst. 
 

Erving is playing an incredibly tough position, and if he had a decent LG next to him, I think he would be decent to good (which ain’t bad). 

The Panthers Defense Is About to Face Its First Real Test

Let’s not forget, part of the calculus is you get Sam plus Horn. If you go Fields, you don’t get both. Understanding you don’t get full rookie contract, and lose a 2nd in ‘22, but 

Does Okung need more Bitcoin?

At least Sam didn’t fumble….

D gotta hold!

Is Nixon supposed to pull his hands down to his side and land on his face?

Hate to complain about refs, but this is BS

8 minutes ago, brainless wuss said:

Shaq has seemingly stepped up this year.  Is that a function of scheme? Personnel? Coaching? Something else?

Clearly it is the number change, ha!

(Stud D-line and much improved secondary likely helps, not to mention the absence of Whitehead helps too).

6 minutes ago, PanthersATL said:

next 6 games are:

• @ texans
• @ cowboys
• Eagles
• Vikings
• @ giants
• @ falcons

Based on what we've seen in these first two games, how we looking after the Cowboys, and after the Falcons? (using the 'ol take it four games at a time mentality)?
 

 

 

3-1 and 3-1 worst case a reasonable expectation? I think most would’ve been happy with 6-2 at that point, right?

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not ready to get cocky, but off to a good start.

(except in third quarters)

True, but if you had to pick a quarter to win, the 3rd would likely be 3rd or 4th most important, right? 1st and 4th definitely higher.  2nd vs 3rd is debatable.

Santosa isn’t noticeably better than any other off the street kicker, so might as well save the 7th round pick. We are in year two of a rebuild, need all the assets we can get. 

2019 season. Game is on the line…

Against Tampa, down 6, 4&1 at TB 2, direct snap to CMC, no gain

Green Bay, down 8, 2nd at goal at the 2, CMC stuffed short of the goal as time expires. 

Washington, down 8, 1st and goal at the 1, CMC, loss of a yard. 2nd and goal, CMC, loss of a yard. 3rd down incomplete, 4th down Allen fumble.

CMC is the man, but short and goal is not for him. I think we miss a big target like Olsen. 

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

No way, we shouldn’t have extended him. Save money and pay Mile Davis.

Lol. Still can’t believe there are idiots that think we shouldn’t have paid CMC and Moton.

General consensus was Moton extension was perfect. 
 

The concerns over CMC extension was 1) the timing (still had a year of rookie deal, plus at least one franchise tag) at cheaper price. And 2) $16mil is a little expensive for a RB given higher chance of injuries (which happened for most of last year). 

If you can’t trust K for a 50 yarder, and he can’t make an XP, you gotta cut him to save that draft pick, right?

Tough not to be impressed with our D

8 minutes ago, hepcat said:

The first round pick next year, I guarantee it, will be a QB, LT, or MLB. Depending on how this season goes.

Or, knowing our new MO, a trade back. 

Too early to look ahead to ‘22? Maybe, but oh well.

Here is our current roster that is under contract through 2022:

*Paradis and Reddick have voided contracts after this year.

Clearly the biggest question mark is QB1. Then LT (and how the rest of the OL works out; seems like some good pieces, but how do they fit). 

But if this rookie class is as strong as we think it might be, we are in pretty good shape for year two of a rebuild.

Extend DJ and Burns, figure out LT and the LB crew through the draft. Add in some cheap vets. 

1 hour ago, BurnNChinn said:

I really think we need to trade for another TE, we just don’t have enough depth there.

Or a long snapper. We might need another one.

26 minutes ago, Tommy Jone said:

Help me understand:  Is dead cap money that we're still actually paying the player?  Or is it money we just can't use?

Surprised to see Luke on this list...

*edit: Wow, Luke only retired in Jan 2020.  Feels like years ago.

The players received that money when they signed a new contract.

Lets say a player gets a 3 year contract with a $15mil signing bonus. That $15mil is paid right away, but for the cap, the team spreads it out over the three years. So if a player gets cut after the second year, the team still has to account for $5mil of “dead” money. 

Gets paid $800k to wait a year to become the long snapper. 
 

What’s a better backup gig in sports?